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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, fsverity@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 11/21] xfs: don't report dio_mem_align and dio_offset_align for fsverity files
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 18:29:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260804182915.GB2904385@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260804175058.GH3556460@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 10:50:58AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 07:43:47PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 10:08:01PM +0200, Andrey Albershteyn wrote:
> > > Sashiko.dev reported that while fsverity files falls back to the
> > > buffered IO for Direct I/O, they should not report non-zero values in
> > > dio_mem_align and dio_offset_align, meaning it's not supported.
> > 
> > This doesn't make much sense to me.  If we didn't want to report
> > we'd also want to not set STATX_DIOALIGN | STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN.
> > But in the end there is very little upside of this while adding
> > extra special cases.
> 
> directio is supported; the implementation merely falls back to reading
> through the page cache.  Unless you're saying that xfs shouldn't
> shouldn't set FMODE_CAN_ODIRECT for fsverity files?  But that also
> doesn't sound right.
> 
> Personally I think sashaniko is full of it and this whole patch should
> be dropped.

The statx fields are meant to report real direct I/O support, not merely
accepting the O_DIRECT flag and silently falling back to buffered I/O.

- Eric

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From: Eric Biggers via Linux-f2fs-devel <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: fsverity@lists.linux.dev,
	Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@kernel.org>,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v14 11/21] xfs: don't report dio_mem_align and dio_offset_align for fsverity files
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 18:29:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260804182915.GB2904385@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260804175058.GH3556460@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 10:50:58AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 07:43:47PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 10:08:01PM +0200, Andrey Albershteyn wrote:
> > > Sashiko.dev reported that while fsverity files falls back to the
> > > buffered IO for Direct I/O, they should not report non-zero values in
> > > dio_mem_align and dio_offset_align, meaning it's not supported.
> > 
> > This doesn't make much sense to me.  If we didn't want to report
> > we'd also want to not set STATX_DIOALIGN | STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN.
> > But in the end there is very little upside of this while adding
> > extra special cases.
> 
> directio is supported; the implementation merely falls back to reading
> through the page cache.  Unless you're saying that xfs shouldn't
> shouldn't set FMODE_CAN_ODIRECT for fsverity files?  But that also
> doesn't sound right.
> 
> Personally I think sashaniko is full of it and this whole patch should
> be dropped.

The statx fields are meant to report real direct I/O support, not merely
accepting the O_DIRECT flag and silently falling back to buffered I/O.

- Eric


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-04 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 20:07 [PATCH v14 00/21] fs-verity support for XFS with post EOF merkle tree Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 01/21] fsverity: report validation errors through fserror to fsnotify Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 02/21] fsverity: expose ensure_fsverity_info() Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 03/21] fsverity: pass digest size and hash of the all-zeroes block to ->write Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 04/21] fsverity: hoist pagecache_read from f2fs/ext4 to fsverity Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 05/21] fsverity: improve flushing performance of fsverity_fill_zerohash Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 17:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:42     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 18:37     ` Eric Biggers
2026-08-04 18:37       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:57       ` Eric Biggers
2026-08-04 18:57         ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 19:00         ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 19:00           ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 18:01     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:46   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 18:46     ` [f2fs-dev] " Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 18:56     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 18:56       ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 19:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 19:28         ` [f2fs-dev] " Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-10 10:12   ` Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-10 10:12     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 06/21] fsverity: don't allow setting DAX file attribute on fsverity files Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 18:02     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 07/21] fsverity: hoist statx reporting of fs-verity flag Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 17:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:39     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 18:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 18:02     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 08/21] xfs: introduce fsverity on-disk changes Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v14 09/21] xfs: don't allow to enable DAX on fs-verity sealed inode Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 10/21] xfs: disable direct read path for fs-verity files Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 11/21] xfs: don't report dio_mem_align and dio_offset_align for fsverity files Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 17:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:43     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:50     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 17:50       ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:29       ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2026-08-04 18:29         ` Eric Biggers via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:24     ` Eric Biggers
2026-08-04 18:24       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-10  8:33       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-10  8:33         ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 12/21] xfs: handle fsverity I/O in write/read path Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:27   ` Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:27     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 13/21] xfs: use read ioend for fsverity data verification Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:36   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 18:36     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-10 10:01     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-10 10:01       ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-10 18:31       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-10 18:31         ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 14/21] xfs: add flags to xfs_free_eofblocks() to pass down to block processing Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:18   ` Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-04 18:18     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-10 10:57     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-10 10:57       ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 15/21] xfs: add fs-verity support Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 16/21] xfs: initialize fs-verity on file open Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 17/21] xfs: add fs-verity ioctls Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 18/21] xfs: advertise fs-verity being available on filesystem Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 19/21] xfs: check and repair the verity inode flag state Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [PATCH v14 20/21] xfs: introduce health state for corrupted fsverity metadata Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-03 20:08   ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v14 21/21] xfs: enable ro-compat fs-verity flag Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-03 20:08   ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-04 17:35 ` [PATCH v14 00/21] fs-verity support for XFS with post EOF merkle tree Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:35   ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-04 17:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-04 17:52     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-08-10  8:28     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-08-10  8:28       ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrey Albershteyn via Linux-f2fs-devel

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