From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:24:35 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260811152435.GH544626@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15a7bd252a9aaeefe393f5609ec383ce2c61694a.camel@infradead.org>
On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 04:15:36PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-08-11 at 11:27 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >
> > The unstated secondary purprose of the atomic context is to force the
> > driver implementors to make sane choices that don't degrade the MM
> > spectacularly.
>
> You realise it only does this is in the OOM handler context when the
> normal death of the process takes too long, and I literally had to hack
> the kernel to even get the splat to trigger in the first place, right?
>
> I don't think it's keeping your driver authors honest... :)
It is documented to be like this, even if it is hard to test..
Even for normal blocking notifiers you should not be using
synchronize_rcu().
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-11 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-11 8:58 [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:21 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:33 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 15:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:15 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-08-11 15:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:22 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:59 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 20:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-11 21:14 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 22:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 23:50 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 20:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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