* [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy
@ 2026-08-12 12:50 Vincent Guittot
2026-08-12 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Guittot @ 2026-08-12 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mingo, peterz, juri.lelli, dietmar.eggemann, rostedt, bsegall,
mgorman, vschneid, kprateek.nayak, linux-kernel
Cc: Vincent Guittot
When a fair task is enqueued, we must update curr and more precisely
its vruntime before placing the enqueued task so avg vruntime will take
into account the last exec phase.
Example:
TA is an always running task in cgroup G0.
TB is a short running task (cyclictest) in cgroup G1.
The lag of TB always increases up the clamp limit because TB is placed
before TA(curr) is updated (since the last tick). When curr(TA) is
finally updated, its last exec phase provide positive lag to TB
Because TA and TB don't belong to the same group, enqueue_hierarchy()
will not update TA's entity when updating curr but only G0's entity at
root level.
The same applies when dequeuing.
Fixes: 85570f10a4c6 ("sched/eevdf: Move to a single runqueue")
Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
---
I overlooked the cgroup part when I reviewed the update_entity_lag() in
flat hierarchy.
kernel/sched/fair.c | 6 +++++-
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index dcf860c59a14..649b4f7505a1 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -7983,6 +7983,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
if (!p->se.sched_delayed || (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED))
util_est_enqueue(cfs_rq, p);
+ if (cfs_rq->curr)
+ update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr));
+
if (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED) {
requeue_delayed_entity(cfs_rq, se);
return;
@@ -8103,7 +8106,8 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
clear_buddies(cfs_rq, se);
- update_curr(cfs_rq_of(se));
+ if (cfs_rq->curr)
+ update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr));
update_entity_lag(cfs_rq, se);
if (flags & DEQUEUE_DELAYED) {
--
2.43.0
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy 2026-08-12 12:50 [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy Vincent Guittot @ 2026-08-12 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra 2026-08-12 14:21 ` Vincent Guittot 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2026-08-12 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vincent Guittot Cc: mingo, juri.lelli, dietmar.eggemann, rostedt, bsegall, mgorman, vschneid, kprateek.nayak, linux-kernel On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 02:50:39PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > When a fair task is enqueued, we must update curr and more precisely > its vruntime before placing the enqueued task so avg vruntime will take > into account the last exec phase. > > Example: > TA is an always running task in cgroup G0. > TB is a short running task (cyclictest) in cgroup G1. > The lag of TB always increases up the clamp limit because TB is placed > before TA(curr) is updated (since the last tick). When curr(TA) is > finally updated, its last exec phase provide positive lag to TB > > Because TA and TB don't belong to the same group, enqueue_hierarchy() > will not update TA's entity when updating curr but only G0's entity at > root level. > > The same applies when dequeuing. This doesn't quite make sense to me; on the one hand you talk about vruntime (which is only relevant for rq->cfs) on the other hand you talk about non overlapping cgroup hierarchies. Hmm, update_curr() looks at ->h_curr, which is the intermediate crud. So even though it updates all the cgroup nonsense, it will not in fact update the root group, because it never actually sees rq->cfs.curr. Bah. > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c > index dcf860c59a14..649b4f7505a1 100644 > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c > @@ -7983,6 +7983,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > if (!p->se.sched_delayed || (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED)) > util_est_enqueue(cfs_rq, p); > > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > + Still, I think this wants to be in a different spot. It needs to be below the whole initial if(curr) place_entity() thing. Perhaps stick these into {en,de}queue_hierarchy() ? > if (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED) { > requeue_delayed_entity(cfs_rq, se); > return; > @@ -8103,7 +8106,8 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > > clear_buddies(cfs_rq, se); > > - update_curr(cfs_rq_of(se)); > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > update_entity_lag(cfs_rq, se); > > if (flags & DEQUEUE_DELAYED) { > -- > 2.43.0 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy 2026-08-12 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra @ 2026-08-12 14:21 ` Vincent Guittot 2026-08-13 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Vincent Guittot @ 2026-08-12 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: mingo, juri.lelli, dietmar.eggemann, rostedt, bsegall, mgorman, vschneid, kprateek.nayak, linux-kernel On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 at 16:03, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 02:50:39PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > > When a fair task is enqueued, we must update curr and more precisely > > its vruntime before placing the enqueued task so avg vruntime will take > > into account the last exec phase. > > > > Example: > > TA is an always running task in cgroup G0. > > TB is a short running task (cyclictest) in cgroup G1. > > The lag of TB always increases up the clamp limit because TB is placed > > before TA(curr) is updated (since the last tick). When curr(TA) is > > finally updated, its last exec phase provide positive lag to TB > > > > Because TA and TB don't belong to the same group, enqueue_hierarchy() > > will not update TA's entity when updating curr but only G0's entity at > > root level. > > > > The same applies when dequeuing. > > This doesn't quite make sense to me; on the one hand you talk about > vruntime (which is only relevant for rq->cfs) on the other hand you talk > about non overlapping cgroup hierarchies. > > Hmm, update_curr() looks at ->h_curr, which is the intermediate crud. So > even though it updates all the cgroup nonsense, it will not in fact > update the root group, because it never actually sees rq->cfs.curr. Exactly > > Bah. > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > index dcf860c59a14..649b4f7505a1 100644 > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > @@ -7983,6 +7983,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > > if (!p->se.sched_delayed || (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED)) > > util_est_enqueue(cfs_rq, p); > > > > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > > + > > Still, I think this wants to be in a different spot. It needs to be > below the whole initial if(curr) place_entity() thing. Perhaps stick > these into {en,de}queue_hierarchy() ? But are we sure that cfs_rq->curr has been updated ? Otherwise it means that we place cfs_rq->curr before having updated its vruntime so avg_vruntime will not account the last running phase. The same applies when we requeue a delayed entity. > > > > if (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED) { > > requeue_delayed_entity(cfs_rq, se); > > return; > > @@ -8103,7 +8106,8 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > > > > clear_buddies(cfs_rq, se); > > > > - update_curr(cfs_rq_of(se)); > > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > > update_entity_lag(cfs_rq, se); > > > > if (flags & DEQUEUE_DELAYED) { > > -- > > 2.43.0 > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy 2026-08-12 14:21 ` Vincent Guittot @ 2026-08-13 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra 2026-08-13 10:49 ` Vincent Guittot 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2026-08-13 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vincent Guittot Cc: mingo, juri.lelli, dietmar.eggemann, rostedt, bsegall, mgorman, vschneid, kprateek.nayak, linux-kernel On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 04:21:14PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 at 16:03, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 02:50:39PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > > > When a fair task is enqueued, we must update curr and more precisely > > > its vruntime before placing the enqueued task so avg vruntime will take > > > into account the last exec phase. > > > > > > Example: > > > TA is an always running task in cgroup G0. > > > TB is a short running task (cyclictest) in cgroup G1. > > > The lag of TB always increases up the clamp limit because TB is placed > > > before TA(curr) is updated (since the last tick). When curr(TA) is > > > finally updated, its last exec phase provide positive lag to TB > > > > > > Because TA and TB don't belong to the same group, enqueue_hierarchy() > > > will not update TA's entity when updating curr but only G0's entity at > > > root level. > > > > > > The same applies when dequeuing. > > > > This doesn't quite make sense to me; on the one hand you talk about > > vruntime (which is only relevant for rq->cfs) on the other hand you talk > > about non overlapping cgroup hierarchies. > > > > Hmm, update_curr() looks at ->h_curr, which is the intermediate crud. So > > even though it updates all the cgroup nonsense, it will not in fact > > update the root group, because it never actually sees rq->cfs.curr. > > Exactly > > > > > Bah. > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > index dcf860c59a14..649b4f7505a1 100644 > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > @@ -7983,6 +7983,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > > > if (!p->se.sched_delayed || (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED)) > > > util_est_enqueue(cfs_rq, p); > > > > > > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > > > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > > > + > > > > Still, I think this wants to be in a different spot. It needs to be > > below the whole initial if(curr) place_entity() thing. Perhaps stick > > these into {en,de}queue_hierarchy() ? > > But are we sure that cfs_rq->curr has been updated ? Otherwise it > means that we place cfs_rq->curr before having updated its vruntime so > avg_vruntime will not account the last running phase. > > The same applies when we requeue a delayed entity. Well, it is the same place the update was previously, no? Also, that XXX comment thing is about enqueueing self, with the thinking that you should not shift time since dequeue, allowing 'atomic' dequeue+enqueue. However, looking at things now, I can't actually see how this could happen in the new code. Putting a trace_printk() in also doesn't seem to help much. So perhaps there is some dead code there to clean up as well. But for consistencies sake I think placing it near {en,de}queue_hierarchy() where the other update_curr() lived/lives makes most sense. Hmm? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix flat hierarchy 2026-08-13 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra @ 2026-08-13 10:49 ` Vincent Guittot 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Vincent Guittot @ 2026-08-13 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: mingo, juri.lelli, dietmar.eggemann, rostedt, bsegall, mgorman, vschneid, kprateek.nayak, linux-kernel On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 at 12:31, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 04:21:14PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 at 16:03, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 02:50:39PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > > > > When a fair task is enqueued, we must update curr and more precisely > > > > its vruntime before placing the enqueued task so avg vruntime will take > > > > into account the last exec phase. > > > > > > > > Example: > > > > TA is an always running task in cgroup G0. > > > > TB is a short running task (cyclictest) in cgroup G1. > > > > The lag of TB always increases up the clamp limit because TB is placed > > > > before TA(curr) is updated (since the last tick). When curr(TA) is > > > > finally updated, its last exec phase provide positive lag to TB > > > > > > > > Because TA and TB don't belong to the same group, enqueue_hierarchy() > > > > will not update TA's entity when updating curr but only G0's entity at > > > > root level. > > > > > > > > The same applies when dequeuing. > > > > > > This doesn't quite make sense to me; on the one hand you talk about > > > vruntime (which is only relevant for rq->cfs) on the other hand you talk > > > about non overlapping cgroup hierarchies. > > > > > > Hmm, update_curr() looks at ->h_curr, which is the intermediate crud. So > > > even though it updates all the cgroup nonsense, it will not in fact > > > update the root group, because it never actually sees rq->cfs.curr. > > > > Exactly > > > > > > > > Bah. > > > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > > index dcf860c59a14..649b4f7505a1 100644 > > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c > > > > @@ -7983,6 +7983,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags) > > > > if (!p->se.sched_delayed || (flags & ENQUEUE_DELAYED)) > > > > util_est_enqueue(cfs_rq, p); > > > > > > > > + if (cfs_rq->curr) > > > > + update_curr(cfs_rq_of(cfs_rq->curr)); > > > > + > > > > > > Still, I think this wants to be in a different spot. It needs to be > > > below the whole initial if(curr) place_entity() thing. Perhaps stick > > > these into {en,de}queue_hierarchy() ? > > > > But are we sure that cfs_rq->curr has been updated ? Otherwise it > > means that we place cfs_rq->curr before having updated its vruntime so > > avg_vruntime will not account the last running phase. > > > > The same applies when we requeue a delayed entity. > > Well, it is the same place the update was previously, no? Also, that XXX > comment thing is about enqueueing self, with the thinking that you > should not shift time since dequeue, allowing 'atomic' dequeue+enqueue. I was looking at which use case could trigger such situation. But doesn't the below need the update ttwu_runnable update_rq_clock p->is_blocked is true and p->se.sched_delayed is true --> enqueue_task(rq, p, ENQUEUE_NOCLOCK | ENQUEUE_DELAYED); > > However, looking at things now, I can't actually see how this could > happen in the new code. Putting a trace_printk() in also doesn't seem to > help much. I'm also running some tests w/ and w/o this patch and checking if rq->cfs->curr->exec_start != rq_clock_task(rq) when we place an entity or compute a lag. > > So perhaps there is some dead code there to clean up as well. But for > consistencies sake I think placing it near {en,de}queue_hierarchy() > where the other update_curr() lived/lives makes most sense. I will run some test with the check above and the update_curr at the beg of {en,de}queue_hierarchy() > > Hmm? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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