From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: Ivy Lopez <skunkolee@gmail.com>,
pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
alex@ghiti.fr, andrew.jones@oss.qualcomm.com,
conor.dooley@microchip.com, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] riscv: hwprobe: fix has_fpu() to require D extension only
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 10:06:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260826-coherent-foe-41863a83bc80@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmfr01l96m.fsf@suse.de>
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2026 at 07:53:05AM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> On Aug 25 2026, Ivy Lopez wrote:
>
> > The kernel never supports F without D, since D depends on F. As such,
> D without F
|The kernel never supports F without D, since D depends on F. As such,
|has_fpu() checking either extension with '||' is incorrect: it
|reports FPU support when only F is present, which is not sufficient
|for D-dependent state save/restore, and weakens
|RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD semantics to "F or D" instead of "F and D".
Thinking about it, this whole thing really is not right.
> The kernel never supports F without D
This is actually correct, the kernel itself doesn't support doing this.
> since D depends on F
But this is not the rationale, the rationale is simplicity of
implementation etc.
> As such,
> has_fpu() checking either extension with '||' is incorrect: it
> reports FPU support when only F is present, which is not sufficient
And this cannot happen, because the kernel will not enable F support if D
is not present, it clears the relevant flag during devicetree/acpi
parsing.
> for D-dependent state save/restore, and weakens
> RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD semantics to "F or D" instead of "F and D".
The reason I would cite for changing the is matching the expectations
set elsewhere in the kernel, rather than impact on userspace or
behaviour, since F without D is not possible so there's no potential
impact here at all.
Cheers,
Conor.
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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: Ivy Lopez <skunkolee@gmail.com>,
pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
alex@ghiti.fr, andrew.jones@oss.qualcomm.com,
conor.dooley@microchip.com, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] riscv: hwprobe: fix has_fpu() to require D extension only
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 10:06:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260826-coherent-foe-41863a83bc80@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmfr01l96m.fsf@suse.de>
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2026 at 07:53:05AM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> On Aug 25 2026, Ivy Lopez wrote:
>
> > The kernel never supports F without D, since D depends on F. As such,
> D without F
|The kernel never supports F without D, since D depends on F. As such,
|has_fpu() checking either extension with '||' is incorrect: it
|reports FPU support when only F is present, which is not sufficient
|for D-dependent state save/restore, and weakens
|RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD semantics to "F or D" instead of "F and D".
Thinking about it, this whole thing really is not right.
> The kernel never supports F without D
This is actually correct, the kernel itself doesn't support doing this.
> since D depends on F
But this is not the rationale, the rationale is simplicity of
implementation etc.
> As such,
> has_fpu() checking either extension with '||' is incorrect: it
> reports FPU support when only F is present, which is not sufficient
And this cannot happen, because the kernel will not enable F support if D
is not present, it clears the relevant flag during devicetree/acpi
parsing.
> for D-dependent state save/restore, and weakens
> RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD semantics to "F or D" instead of "F and D".
The reason I would cite for changing the is matching the expectations
set elsewhere in the kernel, rather than impact on userspace or
behaviour, since F without D is not possible so there's no potential
impact here at all.
Cheers,
Conor.
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-25 19:19 [PATCH v3] riscv: hwprobe: fix has_fpu() to require D extension only Ivy Lopez
2026-08-25 19:19 ` Ivy Lopez
2026-08-26 5:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2026-08-26 5:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2026-08-26 9:06 ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2026-08-26 9:06 ` Conor Dooley
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