From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: saeed bishara <saeed.bishara.os@gmail.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
Sachin Saxena <sachin.saxena@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/24] drivers: replace rte_atomic16 with stdatomic
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 12:56:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260917125653.532c04f1@phoenix.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHfVqdVVG-W+PFZdimqwhrUrUZFSeCNodSu-VU7sscMpaiOVeA@mail.gmail.com>
> > dpbp_node->dpbp_id = dpbp_id;
> > - rte_atomic16_init(&dpbp_node->in_use);
> > + dpbp_node->in_use = 0;
>
> The previous code implies an ordering barrier, so it guarantees that
> dpbp_node->dpbp_id is visible before in_use, while the new code
> doesn't. isn't the a problem?
No barrier is lost, because there was never one there.
rte_atomic16_init() was a plain non-atomic store:
static inline void
rte_atomic16_init(rte_atomic16_t *v)
{
v->cnt = 0;
}
That is the generic definition in lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h,
and no architecture overrides it -- x86, ppc, arm and the rest only
override rte_atomic16_test_and_set(), never _init() or _clear(). So the
old code ordered nothing with respect to the dpbp_id store either.
> aren't rte_atomic_flag_test_and_set_explicit/rte_atomic_flag_clear_explicit
> a better candidates instead of
> rte_atomic_compare_exchange_strong_explicit/rte_atomic_store_explicit ?
There are currently no users of rte_atomic_flag_* anywhere in the tree, and that is not an accident.
atomic_flag exists mainly so C11 could guarantee that at least one atomic type is always lock-free
on all architectures. But for DPDK it is a bad fit.
On every architecture DPDK targets, plain integer atomics are
already lock-free, so the guarantee buys nothing, and the missing
operations are a real cost -- you cannot even read the flag without
modifying it. It is a standards compromise that saw very little use
anywhere, in DPDK or outside it.
I would recommend deprecating and removing those macros as well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-17 19:56 UTC|newest]
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2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] deprecate rte_atomic functions Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] bpf: use C11 atomics in BPF_ST_ATOMIC_REG Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] net/bonding: use stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] net/nbl: remove unused rte_atomic16 field Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] net/ena: replace use of rte_atomicNN Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-22 8:46 ` saeed bishara
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] net/failsafe: convert to stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] net/enic: do not use deprecated rte_atomic64 Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] net/pfe: use ethdev linkstatus helpers Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] net/sfc: replace rte_atomic with stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] crypto/ccp: replace use of rte_atomic64 " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] bus/dpaa: replace rte_atomic16 " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] drivers: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-22 14:46 ` saeed bishara
2026-07-31 3:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-17 19:56 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] net/netvsc: replace rte_atomic32 " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-22 20:43 ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] event/sw: convert from rte_atomic32 to stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] bus/vmbus: convert from rte_atomic " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-22 20:57 ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] common/dpaax: use stdatomic instead of rte_atomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] net/bnx2x: convert from rte_atomic32 to stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] bus/fslmc: replace rte_atomic32 with stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] drivers/event: replace rte_atomic32 in selftests Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] net/hinic: replace rte_atomic32 with stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] net/txgbe: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] net/vhost: use stdatomic instead of rte_atomic32 Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] vdpa/ifc: replace rte_atomic32 with stdatomic Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] test/atomic: suppress deprecation warnings for legacy APIs Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-20 2:28 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] eal: deprecate rte_atomicNN functions Stephen Hemminger
2026-06-21 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] deprecate rte_atomic functions Hemant Agrawal
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