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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>, Sam Li <faithilikerun@gmail.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/12] virtio-blk: derive the maximum zone append size
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 12:03:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260917160339.GN162769@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqsHK1AeZ_q34TMb@ryzen>

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On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 11:16:27PM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:52:47PM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 01:07:45PM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> > > @@ -1313,7 +1330,7 @@ static void virtio_blk_update_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint8_t *config)
> > >          virtio_stl_p(vdev, &blkcfg.zoned.write_granularity,
> > >                       blkconf_zone_write_granularity(conf));
> > >          virtio_stl_p(vdev, &blkcfg.zoned.max_append_sectors,
> > > -                     bs->bl.max_append_sectors);
> > > +                     virtio_blk_max_append_sectors(s));
> > 
> > This has the same issue as the write_granularity patch earlier in this
> > patch series, except that max_append_sectors was already exposing the
> > BlockBackends BlockLimits, which we shouldn't do.
> 
> If we can't derive it from any field in bs->blk, then the best thing I can
> think of (that hay precedence) is to add a virtio-blk property:
> 
> DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("max-append-sectors", VirtIOBlock,
>                    conf.max_append_sectors, BDRV_REQUEST_MAX_SECTORS),
> 
> Since it is very similar to the existing virtio-blk properties:
> 
>     DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("max-discard-sectors", VirtIOBlock,                      
>                        conf.max_discard_sectors, BDRV_REQUEST_MAX_SECTORS),     
>     DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("max-write-zeroes-sectors", VirtIOBlock,                 
>                        conf.max_write_zeroes_sectors, BDRV_REQUEST_MAX_SECTORS),
> 
> 
> 
> However, your argument reaches beyond this patch:
> zoned.model, zone_sectors, max_open_zones and max_active_zones are all
> read from bs->bl in virtio_blk_update_config(), and VIRTIO_BLK_F_ZONED
> itself is set from bs->bl.zoned at realize.
> 
> Should I just let them be?
> 
> Seems out of scope of this series, but following your argument, I'm
> wondering if they shouldn't have been virtio-blk properties as well.

I agree it's out of scope. Feel free to leave it.

How I think about block limits and migration:

Explicit properties make sense where live migration is possible across
different values. Migrating across changing zoned.model, zone_sectors,
max_open_zones, max_active_zones is very hard or impossible, so directly
exposing values from the host is fine here.

Looking at max_append_sectors from that perspective, an explicit
property enables migration from a source host with a lower
max_append_sectors to a destination host with a higher
max_append_sectors. So a property would be appropriate, I think.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07 11:07 [PATCH v4 00/12] block: fix the zone write granularity and the zone append limit Niklas Cassel
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] block: widen BlockLimits.zone_size to uint64_t Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:04   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] virtio-blk: do not merge requests across a zone boundary Niklas Cassel
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] block: add a helper for the index of the zone an offset falls in Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:05   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] virtio-blk: report the effective zone write granularity Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-16 20:06     ` Niklas Cassel
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] virtio-blk: check the write granularity of writes to sequential zones Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] hw/block: reject a zoned device whose write pointers are unaddressable Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] block: reject zone appends that are not a multiple of the sector size Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-09 18:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] file-posix: remove the zone append write granularity check Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] file-posix: base the zone append limit on the transfer limit Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] virtio-blk: derive the maximum zone append size Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-16 21:16     ` Niklas Cassel
2026-09-17 16:03       ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] file-posix: reject a zone append past the device capacity Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-07 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] file-posix: reject a zone append to a full or conventional zone Niklas Cassel
2026-09-09 18:54   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-09-09 18:58 ` [PATCH v4 00/12] block: fix the zone write granularity and the zone append limit Stefan Hajnoczi

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