From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
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Nikita Popov <github@npopov.com>,
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Subject: [PATCH hazptr 3/4] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq()
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2026 11:51:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260927155134.4740-4-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260927155134.4740-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Refer to ptr_eq() in the rcu_dereference() documentation.
ptr_eq() is a mechanism that preserves address dependencies when
comparing pointers, and should be favored when comparing a pointer
obtained from rcu_dereference() against another pointer.
Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Acked-by: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Acked-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Reviewed-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: maged.michael@gmail.com
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: lkmm@lists.linux.dev
Cc: Nikita Popov <github@npopov.com>
Cc: llvm@lists.linux.dev
---
Changes since v1:
- Include feedback from Paul E. McKenney.
Changes since v0:
- Include feedback from Alan Stern.
---
Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++++----
1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
index 5bc3785ebfc2..85b5f79ebf14 100644
--- a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
+++ b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
@@ -104,11 +104,12 @@ readers working properly:
after such branches, but can speculate loads, which can again
result in misordering bugs.
-- Be very careful about comparing pointers obtained from
- rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values. As Linus Torvalds
- explained, if the two pointers are equal, the compiler could
- substitute the pointer you are comparing against for the pointer
- obtained from rcu_dereference(). For example::
+- Use operations that preserve address dependencies (such as
+ "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from rcu_dereference()
+ against non-NULL pointers. As Linus Torvalds explained, if the
+ two pointers are equal, the compiler could substitute the
+ pointer you are comparing against for the pointer obtained from
+ rcu_dereference(). For example::
p = rcu_dereference(gp);
if (p == &default_struct)
@@ -125,6 +126,29 @@ readers working properly:
On ARM and Power hardware, the load from "default_struct.a"
can now be speculated, such that it might happen before the
rcu_dereference(). This could result in bugs due to misordering.
+ Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler
+ does not perform such transformation.
+
+ If the comparison is against another pointer, the compiler is
+ allowed to use either pointer for the following accesses, which
+ loses the address dependency and allows weakly-ordered
+ architectures such as ARM and PowerPC to speculate the
+ address-dependent load before rcu_dereference(). For example::
+
+ p1 = READ_ONCE(gp);
+ p2 = rcu_dereference(gp);
+ if (p1 == p2) /* BUGGY!!! */
+ do_default(p2->a);
+
+ The compiler can use p1->a rather than p2->a, destroying the
+ address dependency. Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()"
+ ensures the compiler preserves the address dependencies.
+ Corrected code::
+
+ p1 = READ_ONCE(gp);
+ p2 = rcu_dereference(gp);
+ if (ptr_eq(p1, p2))
+ do_default(p2->a);
However, comparisons are OK in the following cases:
@@ -204,6 +228,10 @@ readers working properly:
comparison will provide exactly the information that the
compiler needs to deduce the value of the pointer.
+ When in doubt, use operations that preserve address dependencies
+ (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from
+ rcu_dereference() against non-NULL pointers.
+
- Disable any value-speculation optimizations that your compiler
might provide, especially if you are making use of feedback-based
optimizations that take data collected from prior runs. Such
--
2.43.0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-27 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-27 15:51 [PATCH hazptr 0/4] Hazard pointer updates Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 15:51 ` [PATCH hazptr 1/4] hazptr: Fix two-phase hazptr_synchronize race with detach Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 15:51 ` [PATCH hazptr 2/4] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-29 14:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-29 15:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-29 15:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-09-29 15:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-29 16:22 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-27 15:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2026-09-27 15:51 ` [PATCH hazptr 4/4] hazptr: Introduce "try acquire" fast path, fallback to overflow list Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 16:40 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-27 17:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 17:24 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-27 17:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 18:16 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-30 16:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-27 17:26 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-27 22:39 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-28 9:12 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-28 11:32 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-28 14:56 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-28 15:32 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-30 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-28 9:27 ` Kunwu Chan
2026-10-06 8:01 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-27 16:07 ` [PATCH hazptr 0/4] Hazard pointer updates Bradley Morgan
2026-09-27 16:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 16:33 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-27 16:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-30 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-27 16:15 ` Boqun Feng
2026-09-27 16:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-09-27 16:22 ` Bradley Morgan
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