All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 2/8] ipc, msg: Account msg_msg allocations with GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT again
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 20:14:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202610092010.934197B@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asjhg2e4-WSeKuXd@thinkpad>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2026 at 04:22:01PM +0200, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2026 at 02:20:28AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > Since commit 734bbc1c97ea7 ("ipc, msg: Use dedicated slab buckets for
> > alloc_msg()"), alloc_msg() allocates with GFP_KERNEL, and a msg_msg is
> > accounted only through SLAB_ACCOUNT on its bucket caches.
> 
> > With
> > CONFIG_SLAB_BUCKETS=n, kmem_buckets_create() creates no caches and
> > kmem_buckets_alloc() is a GFP_KERNEL kmalloc() from the general caches,
> > which do not account it; the same happens when kmem_buckets_create()
> > fails. Either way, the allocation is not charged to the sender's memory
> > cgroup.
> 
> Ouch, now I see what's gone wrong here... 
> The fix for this bug should be Cc: stable IMHO.
> Allowing to escape memcg charging is not good.

Anything with Fixes: will end up in stable, so I just leave off the
stable CC these days.

> > Allocate with GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT again, as before that commit. Memcg
> > charges such an allocation in whichever cache serves it, so drop the
> > SLAB_ACCOUNT, which no longer adds anything.
> 
> Hmm in the long term we don't want allowing __GFP_ACCOUNT allocations
> that are served from slab caches without SLAB_ACCOUNT, as this wastes
> memory.
> 
> See: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260720-b4-objext_split-v2-0-2fa7c6f60dbe@kernel.org

This is how I thought things worked, so my original version of this
series kept separate caches. (I can return to that too, but it doesn't
seem to be needed today?)

> And now I see the initial kmem_buckets design did not sufficiently
> tackle the question "How this should work when kmem_buckets falls back
> to kmalloc?"

Right. We could just make kmem_buckets non-optional, too? Then they
could have all the caller personalization they need.

> I suppose the kmem_buckets' abstraction should not be too tightly
> coupled with kmalloc caches. Creating a kmem_buckets should be
> conceptually equivalent to creating a set of caches with speicifc
> slab flags, size, align, useroffset/size. (for variable size allocation).

In my mind, the general kmalloc caches are just a specific instance of a
kmem_buckets...

> When it falls back to kmalloc, kmem_buckets itself should provide a
> compatibility layer when falling back to kmalloc.

IMO, it'd just be better to make kmem_buckets not NEED a compat layer...

> (Okay, allowing ctor is completely broken, but other attributes are fine)
> 
> ...I don't agree with the idea that "since kmem_buckets can fall back to
> kmalloc, kmem_buckets can only have the same requirements as kmalloc
> (slab flags, alignment, etc.)".
> 
> By that logic, shouldn't we give up specifying useroffset and usersize
> too? :-)

Yup, but I kept that since only the hardening guarantees change under
that condition -- nothing operationally depends on useroffset/size.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-10  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-06  9:20 [PATCH net-next v6 0/8] net: skb: isolate skb data area allocations into a separate bucket Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 1/8] mm/slab: Mark the kmem_buckets_create() context as a Context: section Kees Cook
2026-10-12 16:55   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 2/8] ipc, msg: Account msg_msg allocations with GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT again Kees Cook
2026-10-09 14:22   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-09 19:39     ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-10  3:18       ` Kees Cook
2026-10-12 21:05         ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-12 21:19         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-13  8:52           ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13  9:48             ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-10  3:14     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-10-10 22:37       ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-12 16:46         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-13  3:40           ` Kees Cook
2026-10-12 17:55   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-12 21:03     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-13  3:46       ` Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 3/8] mm/slab: Drop the ctor and flags arguments from kmem_buckets_create() Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 4/8] mm/slab: Give bucket caches the alignment of the caches they mirror Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 5/8] mm/slab: Add kmem_buckets_destroy() Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 6/8] mm/slab: Add tests for the existing kmem_buckets behaviour Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 7/8] mm/slab: Provide kmalloc type fallback for bucket allocations Kees Cook
2026-10-06  9:20 ` [PATCH net-next v6 8/8] net: skb: isolate skb data area allocations into a separate bucket Kees Cook
2026-10-08 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v6 0/8] " Harry Yoo
2026-10-09  6:36   ` Kees Cook
2026-10-09  7:02   ` Vlastimil Babka

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=202610092010.934197B@keescook \
    --to=kees@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=brauner@kernel.org \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=harry@kernel.org \
    --cc=jack@suse.cz \
    --cc=kuniyu@google.com \
    --cc=linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=muchun.song@linux.dev \
    --cc=pfalcato@suse.de \
    --cc=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
    --cc=shakeel.butt@linux.dev \
    --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.