From: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"Venegas Munoz,
Jose Carlos" <jose.carlos.venegas.munoz@intel.com>,
Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>, virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
"Shinde, Archana M" <archana.m.shinde@intel.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH] virtiofsd: Use --thread-pool-size=0 to mean no thread pool
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:00:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2033635.TJ2JW7Qltq@silver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOssrKcJr9a_5EUTU19BTp1UaST64Shh9w0UeR6TXPLqkN7bBw@mail.gmail.com>
On Donnerstag, 12. November 2020 10:06:37 CET Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:35 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 08:33:50PM +0000, Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
wrote:
> > > Hi Vivek,
> > >
> > > I have tested with Kata 1.12-apha0, the results seems that are better
> > > for the use fio config I am tracking.
> > >
> > > The fio config does randrw:
> > >
> > > fio --direct=1 --gtod_reduce=1 --name=test
> > > --filename=random_read_write.fio --bs=4k --iodepth=64 --size=200M
> > > --readwrite=randrw --rwmixread=75>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > Thanks for the testing.
> >
> > So basically two conclusions from your tests.
> >
> > - for virtiofs, --thread-pool-size=0 is performing better as comapred
> >
> > to --thread-pool-size=1 as well as --thread-pool-size=64. Approximately
> > 35-40% better.
> >
> > - virtio-9p is still approximately 30% better than virtiofs
> >
> > --thread-pool-size=0.
> >
> > As I had done the analysis that this particular workload (mixed read and
> > write) is bad with virtiofs because after every write we are invalidating
> > attrs and cache so next read ends up fetching attrs again. I had posted
> > patches to gain some of the performance.
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20200929185015.GG220516@redhat.com/
> >
> > But I got the feedback to look into implementing file leases instead.
>
> Hmm, the FUSE_AUTO_INVAL_DATA feature is buggy, how about turning it
> off for now? 9p doesn't have it, so no point in enabling it for
> virtiofs by default.
>
> Also I think some confusion comes from cache=auto being the default
> for virtiofs. Not sure what the default is for 9p, but comparing
> default to default will definitely not be apples to apples since this
> mode is nonexistent in 9p.
The default for 9p is cache=none.
That should be changed to cache=mmap being default IMO, because if users stick
with the default setting 'none', it breaks software relying on mmap() calls.
>
> 9p:cache=none <-> virtiofs:cache=none
> 9p:cache=loose <-> virtiofs:cache=always
>
> "9p:cache=mmap" and "virtiofs:cache=auto" have no match.
What does 'auto' do exactly?
>
> Untested patch attached.
>
> Thanks,
> Miklos
Best regards,
Christian Schoenebeck
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
"Shinde, Archana M" <archana.m.shinde@intel.com>,
"Venegas Munoz,
Jose Carlos" <jose.carlos.venegas.munoz@intel.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH] virtiofsd: Use --thread-pool-size=0 to mean no thread pool
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:00:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2033635.TJ2JW7Qltq@silver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOssrKcJr9a_5EUTU19BTp1UaST64Shh9w0UeR6TXPLqkN7bBw@mail.gmail.com>
On Donnerstag, 12. November 2020 10:06:37 CET Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:35 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 08:33:50PM +0000, Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
wrote:
> > > Hi Vivek,
> > >
> > > I have tested with Kata 1.12-apha0, the results seems that are better
> > > for the use fio config I am tracking.
> > >
> > > The fio config does randrw:
> > >
> > > fio --direct=1 --gtod_reduce=1 --name=test
> > > --filename=random_read_write.fio --bs=4k --iodepth=64 --size=200M
> > > --readwrite=randrw --rwmixread=75>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > Thanks for the testing.
> >
> > So basically two conclusions from your tests.
> >
> > - for virtiofs, --thread-pool-size=0 is performing better as comapred
> >
> > to --thread-pool-size=1 as well as --thread-pool-size=64. Approximately
> > 35-40% better.
> >
> > - virtio-9p is still approximately 30% better than virtiofs
> >
> > --thread-pool-size=0.
> >
> > As I had done the analysis that this particular workload (mixed read and
> > write) is bad with virtiofs because after every write we are invalidating
> > attrs and cache so next read ends up fetching attrs again. I had posted
> > patches to gain some of the performance.
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20200929185015.GG220516@redhat.com/
> >
> > But I got the feedback to look into implementing file leases instead.
>
> Hmm, the FUSE_AUTO_INVAL_DATA feature is buggy, how about turning it
> off for now? 9p doesn't have it, so no point in enabling it for
> virtiofs by default.
>
> Also I think some confusion comes from cache=auto being the default
> for virtiofs. Not sure what the default is for 9p, but comparing
> default to default will definitely not be apples to apples since this
> mode is nonexistent in 9p.
The default for 9p is cache=none.
That should be changed to cache=mmap being default IMO, because if users stick
with the default setting 'none', it breaks software relying on mmap() calls.
>
> 9p:cache=none <-> virtiofs:cache=none
> 9p:cache=loose <-> virtiofs:cache=always
>
> "9p:cache=mmap" and "virtiofs:cache=auto" have no match.
What does 'auto' do exactly?
>
> Untested patch attached.
>
> Thanks,
> Miklos
Best regards,
Christian Schoenebeck
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-12 11:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-05 19:44 [Virtio-fs] [PATCH] virtiofsd: Use --thread-pool-size=0 to mean no thread pool Vivek Goyal
2020-11-05 19:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-05 19:52 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-11-05 19:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-06 20:33 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-06 20:33 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-06 22:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-06 22:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-09 10:02 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-09 10:02 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-09 14:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-09 14:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-12 9:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-11-12 9:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-11-18 20:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-12 11:00 ` Christian Schoenebeck [this message]
2020-11-12 11:00 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-11-12 13:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-11-17 16:00 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-17 16:39 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-11-17 16:39 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-11-17 18:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17 18:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-23 15:06 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-23 15:06 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-17 22:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-17 22:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-23 15:07 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-23 15:07 ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-11-18 19:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-11-23 9:46 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-11-23 9:46 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-11-09 10:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-09 10:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-09 14:40 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-11-09 14:40 ` Vivek Goyal
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