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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>, mancha <mancha1@zoho.com>,
	tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	dborkman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:36:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2115964.QxtQ6rHSkc@tauon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1428675960.3377.8.camel@stressinduktion.org>

Am Freitag, 10. April 2015, 16:26:00 schrieb Hannes Frederic Sowa:

Hi Hannes,

>On Fr, 2015-04-10 at 16:09 +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
>> Am Freitag, 10. April 2015, 16:00:03 schrieb Hannes Frederic Sowa:
>> 
>> Hi Hannes,
>> 
>> >On Fr, 2015-04-10 at 15:25 +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
>> >> I would like to bring up that topic again as I did some more analyses:
>> >> 
>> >> For testing I used the following code:
>> >> 
>> >> static inline void memset_secure(void *s, int c, size_t n)
>> >> {
>> >> 
>> >>         memset(s, c, n);
>> >> 	
>> >> 	BARRIER
>> >> 
>> >> }
>> >> 
>> >> where BARRIER is defined as:
>> >> 
>> >> (1) __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (s) : "0" (s));
>> >> 
>> >> (2) __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory");
>> >> 
>> >> (3) __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (s) : "0" (s) : "memory");
>> >
>> >Hm, I wonder a little bit...
>> >
>> >Could you quickly test if you replace (s) with (n) just for the fun of
>> >it? I don't know if we should ask clang people about that, at least it
>> >is their goal to be as highly compatible with gcc inline asm.
>> 
>> Using
>> 
>>  __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (n) : "0" (n) : "memory");
>> 
>> clang O2/3: no mov
>> 
>> gcc O2/3: mov present
>> 
>> ==> not good
>
>I suspected a problem in how volatile with non-present output args could
>be different, but this seems not to be the case.
>
>I would contact llvm/clang mailing list and ask. Maybe there is a
>problem? It seems kind of strange to me...

Do you really think this is a compiler issue? I would rather think it is how 
to interpret the pure "memory" asm option. Thus, I would rather think that 
both, gcc and clang are right and we just need to use the code that fits both.
>
>Thanks,
>Hannes
>
>
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Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18  9:53 [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets mancha
2015-03-18 10:30 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 10:50 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 10:56   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 11:09     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:02       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:14         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:19           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:20             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:42               ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 15:09                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 16:02                   ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 17:14                     ` mancha
2015-03-18 17:49                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 19:09                         ` mancha
2015-03-18 23:53                       ` Cesar Eduardo Barros
2015-03-18 17:41                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 17:56                     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 17:58                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 12:58         ` mancha
2015-04-10 13:25       ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:00         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:09           ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:22             ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:33               ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 20:09                 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:26             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:36               ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2015-04-10 14:45                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:46                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-10 14:50                   ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:54                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 19:10                     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:34                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 20:41                         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:53                           ` Daniel Borkmann

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