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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
Cc: Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, david.marchand@redhat.com, "Mcnamara,
	John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: ensure sphinx output is reproducible
Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 19:13:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2121200.bB369e8A3T@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMw=ZnTj7Bvs7ZtPUvNRj5KyNFujEz8svrMtH4NneN+qX4nzXA@mail.gmail.com>

19/05/2024 18:36, Luca Boccassi:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 15:01, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> > 17/05/2024 13:29, Luca Boccassi:
> > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 17:04, Bruce Richardson
> > > <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 05:45:52PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > I would prefer adding an option for reproducible build
> > > > > (which is not a common requirement).
> > > > >
> > > > Taking a slightly different tack, is it possible to sort the searchindex.js
> > > > file post-build, so that even reproducible builds get the benefits of
> > > > parallelism?
> > >
> > > Given the recent attacks with malicious sources being injected in open
> > > source projects, reproducible builds are more important than ever and
> > > should just be the default.
> >
> > Yes it should be the default when packaging.
> > Why should it be the default for normal builds?
> 
> Build reproducibility is everyone's responsibility, not just Linux
> distributions. There should be no difference between a "normal build"
> and a "packaging build". As far as I know, it is still fully supported
> for DPDK consumers to take the git repository, build it and ship it
> themselves - those cases also need their builds to be reproducible.

Sorry I really don't understand this point.
The goal of a reproducible build is to maintain a stable hash, right?
This hash needs to be stable only when it is published, isn't it?
So isn't it enough to give a build option for having a reproducible build?

> Nowadays reproducibility is no longer a "nice-to-have", it's table
> stakes, as especially after the cybersecurity executive order of the
> US govt from some time ago, procurement rules are getting stricter.
> See the "Reproducible Builds" paragraph under the "2.4 Harden the
> Build Environment" section in this CISA document on supply chain
> security recommendations:
> 
> https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/ESF_SECURING_THE_SOFTWARE_SUPPLY_CHAIN_DEVELOPERS.PDF




  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-19 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29 12:58 [PATCH] doc: ensure sphinx output is reproducible christian.ehrhardt
2023-06-29 13:02 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2023-07-03 15:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-07-06 12:49   ` Christian Ehrhardt
2023-11-27 16:45     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-11-27 17:00       ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-17 11:29         ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 13:54           ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-19 16:36             ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 17:13               ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2024-05-19 17:23                 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 21:10                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-20  9:53                     ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-20 15:39                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-20 18:59                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-26 11:30         ` Thomas Monjalon

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