From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Dean <seattleplus@gmail.com>
Cc: "J.Bruce Fields" <bfields@citi.umich.edu>,
NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>,
NFS <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Is tcp autotuning really what NFS wants?
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:59:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21294.1373486365@sandelman.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DD9AD5.1030508@gmail.com>
Dean <seattleplus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This could significantly limit the amount of parallelism that can be
> achieved for a single TCP connection (and given that the
>> Linux client strongly prefers a single connection now, this could
> become more of an issue).
> I understand the simplicity in using a single tcp connection, but
> performance-wise it is definitely not the way to go on WAN links. When
> even a miniscule amount of packet loss is added to the link (<0.001%
> packet loss), the tcp buffer collapses and performance drops
And just remember bufferbloat.
> Using multiple tcp connections allows better saturation of the link,
> since when packet loss occurs on a stream, the other streams can fill
> the void. Today, the only solution is to scale up the number of
> physical clients, which has high coordination overhead, or use a wan
> accelerator such as Bitspeed or Riverbed (which comes with its own
> issues such as extra hardware, cost, etc).
This is true on high speed links with few bottlenecks, but not so much when
there is a DSL-type bottleneck and excessive buffers.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-10 20:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2013-07-10 2:27 ` Is tcp autotuning really what NFS wants? J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-10 4:32 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-10 19:07 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-15 4:32 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-16 1:58 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-16 4:00 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-16 14:24 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-18 0:03 ` Ben Myers
2013-07-24 21:07 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-25 1:30 ` [PATCH] NFSD/sunrpc: avoid deadlock on TCP connection due to memory pressure NeilBrown
2013-07-25 12:35 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-25 20:18 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-25 20:33 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-26 14:19 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-30 2:48 ` NeilBrown
2013-08-01 2:49 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-10 17:33 ` Is tcp autotuning really what NFS wants? Dean
2013-07-10 17:39 ` Ben Greear
2013-07-15 4:35 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-15 23:32 ` Ben Greear
2013-07-16 4:46 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-10 19:59 ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2013-07-15 1:26 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-15 5:02 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-15 11:57 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-15 13:42 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-16 1:10 ` NeilBrown
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