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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, me@ttaylorr.com,
	vdye@github.com, steadmon@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] log: add default decoration filter
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2022 16:50:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220805.86zggirb7b.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac7b3a81-7ca6-05d3-6633-4204066aa933@github.com>


On Fri, Aug 05 2022, Derrick Stolee wrote:

> On 8/4/2022 3:08 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>> There's no lack of "stability", because the ref hiding only act on
>> what's known to be something we can ignore, because our git version
>> knows about it.
>> 
>> If git v2.40 knows about refs/magical-1/* but not refs/magical-2/*, but
>> git v2.50 knows about both it's not a lack of stability that v2.40 shows
>> one decorated by default, but v2.50 shows neither.
>
> You are describing how the behavior changes between these versions on
> the same repository. That's what I mean by lack of stability.

If you want that forward-stability wouldn't another way to accomplish
this to put all of these new magical refs in the same refs/git-internal/
namespace, e.g. refs/git-internal/foo/, refs/git-internal/bar/?

>> But it's not just that I disagree, I genuinely don't get your POV
>> here.
>
> I'm optimizing for non-experts who never need any refs outside of the
> standard set.

Clearly, I'm wondering if we can find a way forward that doesn't change
existing long-statnding behavior and caters to the "stability" of future
inter-version behavior with this new class of refs.

> Now that this version removed the notes ref from the
> decoration, the stance for inclusion is simple:
>
>   If Git offers to color the namespace with color.decoration.<slot>,
>   then Git decorates with that namespace by default.

I'm a bit confused, sorry.

So aside from "notes", if we have a color.decoration.<slot> applying to
a ref now, it's a bug in your series if it's not showing up anymore?

I still find that inclusion criteria to be a bit odd, we've usually
considered colors optional sugar. Just because nobody bothered to add a
coloring config for it doesn't seem like a good reason to not show
something at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-05 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-26 14:04 [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 15:10   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] log: add default " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:39   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 15:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-27 19:07     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 19:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 20:32     ` Jeff King
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-26 14:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-26 16:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 18:19     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 13:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 20:40         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 19:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:22       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-03  6:44       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-03 13:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  4:05           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-04 17:23             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-05 14:21               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 16:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-03 22:39     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:38     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:30       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:50           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 20:17               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  7:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 14:27       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-05 14:50         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-08-05 15:09           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-11 19:30             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-12 19:37               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] log: add --decorate-all option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04 16:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] log: create log.decorateFilter=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:42     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:38       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] t4207: modernize test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-09-08 21:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-09-09 12:23         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 16:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 16:40             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 17:41               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 17:12             ` Glen Choo
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] log: add --clear-decorations option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] log: create log.initialDecorationSet=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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