From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
To: Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar>
Cc: netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: New extension: CRYPT target
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:08:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <22306.1148389730@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar> of "Mon, 22 May 2006 20:36:00 -0300." <44724AE0.5040708@speedy.com.ar>
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>>>>> "Gervasio" == Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar> writes:
Gervasio> The idea behind CRYPT extension is not to replace IPSEC
Gervasio> absolutely, but to be a simple alternative of use for
Gervasio> encryption/decryption and packet authentication using
Gervasio> Iptables. It could be useful for somebody.
Tell me the threat model.
Under what circumstances is it better than:
a) IPsec with OE (with is dirty simple to configure)
b) TLS/SSL LD_PRELOAD wrapper
c) using SCP instead of FTP (or rsync over SSH)
d) OpenVPN or SSH port forwarding
e) HIP
Gervasio> We have also developed a module in Python that use the
Gervasio> CRYPT extension, configuration files, has automatic key
Gervasio> management and user authentication using certificates. But
Gervasio> we need that someone else can test first the extension
Gervasio> alone, and comments its experience to us.
Why in the world would you build such a complicated system?
You just told us that you wanted something simpler than IPsec.
It seems like vanity crypto to me.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-23 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-21 15:59 New extension: CRYPT target Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:01 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-21 21:15 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:17 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-22 23:49 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:27 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:46 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 17:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-23 17:14 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 23:13 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-24 5:03 ` Patrick Schaaf
2006-05-23 18:26 ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-21 22:57 ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-22 23:36 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 13:08 ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2006-05-23 17:19 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:51 ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-05-21 20:34 ` Cedric Blancher
2006-05-21 21:01 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:54 ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-21 20:27 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-25 16:11 ` Lennart Poettering
2006-05-26 18:12 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-26 18:25 ` Patrick McHardy
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2006-05-23 23:33 Gervasio Bernal
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