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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
To: Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar>
Cc: netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: New extension: CRYPT target
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:08:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22306.1148389730@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar> of "Mon, 22 May 2006 20:36:00 -0300." <44724AE0.5040708@speedy.com.ar>

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>>>>> "Gervasio" == Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar> writes:
    Gervasio> The idea behind CRYPT extension is not to replace IPSEC
    Gervasio> absolutely, but to be a simple alternative of use for
    Gervasio> encryption/decryption and packet authentication using
    Gervasio> Iptables. It could be useful for somebody.

  Tell me the threat model.

  Under what circumstances is it better than:
	a) IPsec with OE (with is dirty simple to configure)
	b) TLS/SSL LD_PRELOAD wrapper
	c) using SCP instead of FTP (or rsync over SSH)
	d) OpenVPN or SSH port forwarding
	e) HIP

    Gervasio> We have also developed a module in Python that use the
    Gervasio> CRYPT extension, configuration files, has automatic key
    Gervasio> management and user authentication using certificates. But
    Gervasio> we need that someone else can test first the extension
    Gervasio> alone, and comments its experience to us.

  Why in the world would you build such a complicated system? 
  You just told us that you wanted something simpler than IPsec.

  It seems like vanity crypto to me.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-23 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-21 15:59 New extension: CRYPT target Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:01 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-21 21:15   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:17     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-22 23:49       ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:27         ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:46           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 17:07             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-23 17:14               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 23:13                 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-24  5:03                   ` Patrick Schaaf
2006-05-23 18:26           ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-21 22:57     ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-22 23:36       ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 13:08         ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2006-05-23 17:19           ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:51 ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-05-21 20:34   ` Cedric Blancher
2006-05-21 21:01   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:54   ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-21 20:27 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-25 16:11 ` Lennart Poettering
2006-05-26 18:12   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-26 18:25     ` Patrick McHardy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-23 23:33 Gervasio Bernal

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