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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
To: netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org
Cc: Gervasio Bernal <gervasiobernal@speedy.com.ar>,
	Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl>
Subject: Re: New extension: CRYPT target
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 18:54:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9699.1148252070@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl> of "Sun, 21 May 2006 19:51:17 +0200." <4470A895.5090707@rtij.nl>

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>>>>> "Martijn" == Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl> writes:
    Martijn> Does -mode cbc use the iv from the last packet? If not,

  That method, which IPsec has suggested for awhile, turns out to be 
less than ideal. 
  see http://www.hut.fi/~svaarala/espiv.pdf

  Well, that URL is no longer valid... try:

   http://www.samivaarala.com/publications/espiv_final.pdf

    Martijn> this seems like a false sense of security. Protocols that
    Martijn> use lots of small packets will still more or less have the
    Martijn> drawbacks of ecb.

  ecb mode is just not useful.
  If you want network encryption, use it: it's called IPsec.

  If you want snake oil, then I guess this is the code for you.

  I recommend against including this functionality.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-21 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-21 15:59 New extension: CRYPT target Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:01 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-21 21:15   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:17     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-22 23:49       ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:27         ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 16:46           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 17:07             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-05-23 17:14               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-05-23 23:13                 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-24  5:03                   ` Patrick Schaaf
2006-05-23 18:26           ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-21 22:57     ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-22 23:36       ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-23 13:08         ` Michael Richardson
2006-05-23 17:19           ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 17:51 ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-05-21 20:34   ` Cedric Blancher
2006-05-21 21:01   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-21 22:54   ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2006-05-21 20:27 ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-25 16:11 ` Lennart Poettering
2006-05-26 18:12   ` Gervasio Bernal
2006-05-26 18:25     ` Patrick McHardy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-23 23:33 Gervasio Bernal

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