From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:04:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2319154.zZvkB0IXWm@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150415114036.GB19274@kroah.com>
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2015, 13:40:36 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:44:11AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27:13AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman
wrote:
> > > > > > We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want
> > > > > > to have busybox as userland. That's a fact.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that a problem?
> > > >
> > > > I'm amazed that you're really actually asking that question :-(
> > >
> > > Really? Why can't userspace rely on the features that the kernel
> > > provides them?
> >
> > Userspace can do whatever it wants. As long as I'm not being *forced*
> > to do what userspace thinks is the right thing.
> >
> > It seems to me that since that whole systemd* debacle started, we're
> > forgetting the choice aspect.
>
> What "choice" aspect? Surely you aren't going to make the "Linux is
> about choice" argument are you?
>
> > And dammit, I want my choice. I want to be able to choose what I'm
> > running. Not run what someone else thought what would be good for me
> > to
> > run. If I wanted that, I'd long switched to windoze or äbble.
>
> Oh crap, you went there :)
>
> Take a look at http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/ please.
Just one question:
In what way is the post of a single kernel developer authoritative for the
whole community?
Even if I would make a poster of 200x100 meters or so and stick it onto a
building, it wouldn´t be.
Ciao,
--
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
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2015-04-13 19:03 [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-13 19:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:49 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 19:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:57 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 20:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 20:08 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 20:22 ` Al Viro
2015-04-13 20:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 1:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 6:54 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 7:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 14:48 ` Michal Schmidt
2015-04-15 15:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 16:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-17 16:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 8:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:00 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 9:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:30 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:53 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 11:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 13:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 16:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 16:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 17:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-16 8:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 17:41 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 17:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 21:55 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 18:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 19:04 ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2015-04-15 9:28 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 11:25 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 13:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 15:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 15:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 16:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 17:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 17:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 21:56 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 22:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:18 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:48 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 22:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 23:27 ` Al Viro
2015-04-16 0:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 1:04 ` Al Viro
2015-04-16 5:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-04-16 10:31 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-16 12:02 ` Tom Gundersen
2015-04-16 12:15 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-16 12:43 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-21 16:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-21 19:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2015-04-21 19:55 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-15 8:18 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 8:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:52 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 9:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:28 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 11:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 0:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-14 0:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 17:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 21:06 ` Issues with capability bits and meta-data in kdbus Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-22 1:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-22 1:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-22 3:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 13:46 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-22 11:40 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-22 13:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-22 14:05 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-22 13:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 14:35 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-22 20:02 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 5:35 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-24 14:32 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 14:39 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-24 15:02 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 15:14 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-24 14:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-24 15:04 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 8:38 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-22 10:45 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-22 11:41 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-22 8:58 ` [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Borislav Petkov
2015-04-23 19:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 20:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-23 21:22 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-23 21:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-24 14:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-23 21:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 5:02 ` Steven Noonan
2015-04-24 9:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 10:28 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-24 10:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 11:26 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-24 6:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 6:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 7:27 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-24 8:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 20:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-13 20:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 17:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 18:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 19:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-14 19:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:40 ` Al Viro
2015-04-14 19:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 8:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 9:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:36 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 13:13 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 16:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 9:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 11:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 20:11 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-14 22:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 8:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 10:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 12:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 14:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 16:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 12:55 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 18:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:35 ` Al Viro
2015-04-14 19:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 17:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-15 18:04 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-15 22:22 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-16 16:02 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-16 17:31 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 20:55 ` Al Viro
2015-04-18 11:44 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 16:37 ` Robert Schwebel
2015-04-17 13:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 16:54 ` Diego Viola
2015-04-21 17:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 17:25 ` Diego Viola
2015-04-14 20:14 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-14 21:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-14 22:05 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 6:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 8:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:12 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-16 12:13 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-17 19:27 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-17 20:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-17 21:45 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-04-20 18:01 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-21 8:09 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-21 18:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 8:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 12:18 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 12:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 22:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 8:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 11:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 16:00 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-15 16:44 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 18:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 18:40 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 20:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 20:41 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-16 18:03 ` Djalal Harouni
2015-04-15 21:58 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-16 13:13 ` Tom Gundersen
2015-04-16 14:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 15:01 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 17:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-17 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-17 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-20 12:43 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-20 20:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 19:01 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-17 13:23 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-17 14:54 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 22:08 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-16 13:14 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-16 17:15 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-23 13:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 13:06 ` [PATCH] kdbus: pool: use __vfs_read() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 14:17 ` [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-23 16:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 16:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 17:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 17:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 17:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-23 19:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 2:08 ` Karol Lewandowski
2015-04-29 21:16 ` Paul Moore
2015-04-23 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 19:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 19:33 ` Greg KH
2015-04-23 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 13:50 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-24 14:19 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-24 14:34 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-24 19:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-27 8:57 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-27 17:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-27 22:29 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 10:53 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-27 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 21:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-27 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 13:44 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 14:48 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 17:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-28 20:25 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 23:12 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 0:45 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-29 11:33 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 12:47 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 13:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 13:38 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 13:46 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 14:01 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 14:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 14:11 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 14:18 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 14:53 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 14:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 15:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-29 15:21 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-30 9:05 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 9:12 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-30 10:19 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 10:40 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-30 12:16 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 12:23 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-30 12:40 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 12:45 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-30 14:52 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 15:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-07-03 9:13 ` cee1
2015-04-29 16:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 14:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 14:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 15:07 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 15:17 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 15:22 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 15:41 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 18:28 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 16:26 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-29 19:10 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 19:28 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 22:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-30 0:05 ` David Lang
2015-04-30 0:15 ` Dave Airlie
2015-04-30 0:18 ` David Lang
2015-04-30 1:20 ` Dave Airlie
2015-04-29 13:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-29 15:18 ` Simon McVittie
2015-04-29 17:48 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-29 15:27 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 16:36 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 19:30 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 19:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 20:15 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 20:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 20:43 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 20:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-30 1:42 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 22:34 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-30 20:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-01 15:49 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-28 17:19 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 19:19 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 20:34 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 20:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-22 17:33 ` Jindrich Makovicka
2015-06-22 20:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-22 21:24 ` Jindřich Makovička
2015-07-07 21:40 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-04-28 12:49 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 10:39 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-23 18:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-23 19:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 18:57 ` Kdbus needs meaningful review (was: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1) Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-15 18:18 [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2015-04-15 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-15 18:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 22:16 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 18:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 22:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 18:20 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-20 20:43 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-20 20:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-20 21:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-20 21:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-20 22:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-21 7:38 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-04-21 9:35 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-21 10:17 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-21 12:20 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-21 14:01 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-21 14:27 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-21 14:47 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-21 18:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 14:57 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-22 19:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-27 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-27 20:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 17:24 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-21 10:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 11:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-21 12:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 10:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 10:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-21 11:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 11:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-21 13:18 ` Olivier Galibert
2015-04-21 13:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 15:53 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-21 18:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-21 8:18 ` Richard Cochran
2015-04-21 9:07 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-04-21 13:37 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 1:51 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2015-04-22 3:11 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 13:09 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-04-20 20:26 George Spelvin
2015-04-21 12:08 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
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