From: Spam <spam@tnonline.net>
To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations! we have got hash function screwed up
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:26:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <234966540.20041230192607@tnonline.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041230174732.GB5206@favonius>
> Esben Stien wrote (ao):
>> I really don't like that there is no undelete feature in reiserfs -
>> it's not planned for reiserfs-4 either. I see desperate users all the
>> time trying to get back what they mistakenly removed.
> If you 'see desperate users all the time' you might be amoung the wrong
> people ;-)
> Maybe you can clue them in the wonderful world of making backups?
This is the standard Linux comment... But in reality, it just a way
to say you do not know, or that linux lacks an (in this users
opinion) important feature.
In any case. Undelete has been since ages on many platforms. It IS a
useful feature. Accidents CAN happen for many reasons and in some
cases you may need to recover data.
Besides, a deletion does not fully remove the data, but just unlinks
it. In Reiser where there is tailing etc for small files this can be
a problem. Either the little file might not be able to be recovered
(shouldn't the data still exist, even if it is tailed), or the user
need to use a non-tailing policy?
> Next time it is not their mistake, but instead a broken harddisk.
> Undelete wont save them then.
Indeed. Backups are important. But the backup does not recover the
last minute changes. They may be a day or a week old at best - even
at larger sites!
> Or they just edited it instead of rm.
´
well, overwritten data is not so easy to get back. But from what I
understand in Linux, is that many applications actually write
another file and then unlinks the old file? If that is the case then
it may even be possible to get back some overwritten files!
~S
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-30 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-30 11:52 Congratulations! we have got hash function screwed up Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 12:40 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 12:59 ` Cal
2004-12-30 14:18 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 16:40 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 16:51 ` Matthias Andree
2005-01-18 21:17 ` Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2005-01-19 16:06 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-19 22:41 ` David Masover
2005-01-20 13:18 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-01-20 23:43 ` Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2005-01-21 9:31 ` Edward Shishkin
2004-12-30 17:07 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 17:15 ` Christian Iversen
2004-12-30 17:47 ` Sander
2004-12-30 17:59 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:30 ` Sander
2004-12-30 18:46 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:49 ` Chris Dukes
2004-12-30 19:21 ` Sander
2004-12-30 19:29 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:16 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:26 ` Spam [this message]
2004-12-30 20:41 ` Tom Vier
2004-12-30 23:14 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 23:25 ` Spam
2004-12-31 4:11 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-31 8:36 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 20:08 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 21:55 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-31 4:05 ` David Masover
2004-12-31 4:26 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-31 5:59 ` David Masover
2004-12-30 20:57 ` Adrian Ulrich
2004-12-30 21:01 ` Stefan Traby
2004-12-30 21:20 ` brianmas
2004-12-30 17:09 ` Lehmann
2004-12-30 20:11 ` Hans Reiser
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-30 18:16 Burnes, James
2004-12-30 18:36 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 19:26 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 19:24 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 20:25 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 17:22 Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 13:24 Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 14:11 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-28 22:12 Lehmann
2004-12-29 18:55 ` Stefan Traby
2004-12-29 21:04 ` Lehmann
2004-12-29 21:05 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-29 21:43 ` Lehmann
2004-12-29 21:46 ` Christian Iversen
2004-12-29 22:27 ` Lehmann
2004-12-30 2:05 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 10:22 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 17:02 ` Lehmann
2005-01-06 12:45 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2005-01-06 14:27 ` Lehmann
2005-01-06 15:56 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-06 16:13 ` Spam
2005-01-06 16:26 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-06 16:29 ` Spam
2005-01-06 16:56 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-07 17:22 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-07 17:28 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-06 18:55 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-01-07 17:26 ` Lehmann
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