From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: "Burnes, James" <james.burnes@gwl.com>
Cc: Esben Stien <b0ef@esben-stien.name>,
sander@humilis.net,
Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de>,
hihone@bigpond.net.au, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations! we have got hash function screwed up
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:25:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41D46423.5050004@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DF9165145FACB4C96977FF650C1E90411F73702@its-mail1.its.corp.gwl.com>
Burnes, James wrote:
>>We got pretty good tools to restore from a hd with bad blocks.
>>
>>dd it, loop it, fsck it.
>>
>>
>
>Heh, heh. That won't help you if a circuit board, spindle, read head or
>other mechanism fails. Then you better hope the data wasn't *that*
>valuable or you know good platter recovery shop.
>
>Backups are cheap. Recovery is very expensive. Ask the CIA ;-)
>
>It's Hans and friend's responsibility to patch whatever looks like a
>serious problem. It's the user's responsibility to protect valuable
>data.
>File system reliability after that is really a question of operational
>downtime expenses etc.
>
>If people don't trouble themselves to perform backups:
>
>1. They have accepted that risk or
>2. They are too junior to have ever lost a couple months worth of work
>because they were too lazy or inexperienced to perform backups.
>3. They don't have any work that can't be rebuilt in a matter of hours
>(see #1).
>
>(BTW: If Hans is a little tired of working on Reiser3 it's probably
>because he is currently stressed out making last minute tweaks on
>Reiser4 and managing his team.
>
>Cut him some slack. Email conversations don't show a number of things
>we take for granted, like that fact that the person we're talking to
>looks really tired etc. Unlike ext3, XFS and JFS, Reiser isn't funded
>by someone with huge pockets.)
>
>Jim Burnes
>
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It seems a bit more shows than I would like.
My wife just got some 75 year old female judge filling in during the
christmas holidays for the regular judge to take my kids away from me,
without me getting a chance for a response to the allegations, until a
hearing in 25 days from now, because I show my son movies about world
war II, and my exposing him to violent computer games is alleged to
induce traumatic stress disorder which somehow has never been reproduced
in front of me. Only in California.....
I shall be alleging that little boys take to violent computer games like
monkeys take to trees, and challenging anyone to reproduce in front of
me evidence to the contrary.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-30 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-30 18:16 Congratulations! we have got hash function screwed up Burnes, James
2004-12-30 18:36 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 19:26 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 19:24 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 20:25 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-30 17:22 Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 13:24 Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 14:11 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 11:52 Yiannis Mavroukakis
2004-12-30 12:40 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 12:59 ` Cal
2004-12-30 14:18 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 16:40 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 16:51 ` Matthias Andree
2005-01-18 21:17 ` Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2005-01-19 16:06 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-19 22:41 ` David Masover
2005-01-20 13:18 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-01-20 23:43 ` Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2005-01-21 9:31 ` Edward Shishkin
2004-12-30 17:07 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 17:15 ` Christian Iversen
2004-12-30 17:47 ` Sander
2004-12-30 17:59 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:30 ` Sander
2004-12-30 18:46 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:49 ` Chris Dukes
2004-12-30 19:21 ` Sander
2004-12-30 19:29 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:16 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-30 18:26 ` Spam
2004-12-30 20:41 ` Tom Vier
2004-12-30 23:14 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 23:25 ` Spam
2004-12-31 4:11 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-31 8:36 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 20:08 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 21:55 ` Esben Stien
2004-12-31 4:05 ` David Masover
2004-12-31 4:26 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-31 5:59 ` David Masover
2004-12-30 20:57 ` Adrian Ulrich
2004-12-30 21:01 ` Stefan Traby
2004-12-30 21:20 ` brianmas
2004-12-30 17:09 ` Lehmann
2004-12-30 20:11 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-28 22:12 Lehmann
2004-12-29 18:55 ` Stefan Traby
2004-12-29 21:04 ` Lehmann
2004-12-29 21:05 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-29 21:43 ` Lehmann
2004-12-29 21:46 ` Christian Iversen
2004-12-29 22:27 ` Lehmann
2004-12-30 2:05 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-30 10:22 ` Matthias Andree
2004-12-30 17:02 ` Lehmann
2005-01-06 12:45 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2005-01-06 14:27 ` Lehmann
2005-01-06 15:56 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-06 16:13 ` Spam
2005-01-06 16:26 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-06 16:29 ` Spam
2005-01-06 16:56 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-07 17:22 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-07 17:28 ` Chris Dukes
2005-01-06 18:55 ` Edward Shishkin
2005-01-07 17:26 ` Lehmann
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