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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Eero Tamminen <oak@helsinkinet.fi>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	amaindex@outlook.com, anna.schumaker@oracle.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	joel.granados@kernel.org, jstultz@google.com,
	leonylgao@tencent.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, longman@redhat.com,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, mingzhe.yang@ly.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	senozhatsky@chromium.org, tfiga@chromium.org, will@kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] hung_task: fix warnings caused by unaligned lock pointers
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 15:09:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23b67f9d-20ff-4302-810c-bf2d77c52c63@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <693a62e0-a2b5-113b-d5d9-ffb7f2521d6c@linux-m68k.org>



On 2025/10/8 14:14, Finn Thain wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
> 
>> On 2025/10/8 08:40, Finn Thain wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Getting back to the $Subject at hand, are people OK with proceeding
>>>> with Lance's original fix?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lance's patch is probably more appropriate for -stable than the patch I
>>> proposed -- assuming a fix is needed for -stable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Apart from that, I believe this fix is still needed for the hung task
>> detector itself, to prevent unnecessary warnings in a few unexpected
>> cases.
>>
> 
> Can you be more specific about those cases? A fix for a theoretical bug
> doesn't qualify for -stable branches. But if it's a fix for a real bug, I
> have misunderstood Andrew's question...

I believe it is a real bug, as it was reported by Eero and Geert[1].

The blocker tracking mechanism in -stable assumes that lock pointers
are at least 4-byte aligned. As I mentioned previously[2], this
assumption fails for packed structs on architectures that don't trap
on unaligned access.

Of course, we could always improve the mechanism to not make
assumptions. But for -stable, this fix completely resolves the issue
by ignoring any unaligned pointer, whatever the cause (e.g., packed
structs, non-native alignment, etc.).

So we can all sleep well at night again :)

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAMuHMdW7Ab13DdGs2acMQcix5ObJK0O2dG_Fxzr8_g58Rc1_0g@mail.gmail.com/
[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cfb62b9d-9cbd-47dd-a894-3357027e2a50@linux.dev/

> 
>>>
>>> Besides those two alternatives, there is also a workaround:
>>> $ ./scripts/config -d DETECT_HUNG_TASK_BLOCKER
>>> which may be acceptable to the interested parties (i.e. m68k users).
>>>
>>> I don't have a preference. I'll leave it up to the bug reporters (Eero
>>> and Geert).
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 14:52 [PATCH v2 1/1] hung_task: fix warnings caused by unaligned lock pointers Lance Yang
2025-09-09 16:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-09 16:55   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-09 19:02     ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10  0:45     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10  7:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10  7:37       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-10  0:07   ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10  0:51     ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10  1:35       ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10  1:48         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10  6:40           ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10  6:52     ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-10  7:39       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-10  7:45         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10  8:02       ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 11:26         ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-10  7:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10 11:57       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-10-07 20:56         ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-08  0:40           ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08  3:03             ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08  6:14               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08  7:09                 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-10-08  7:23                   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08 10:12                     ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08 13:48                       ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08 21:55                         ` Finn Thain
2025-10-09  2:01                           ` Lance Yang
2025-10-09  4:04                             ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-09  7:11                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 10:11                                 ` David Laight
2025-10-08 12:56             ` Eero Tamminen

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