From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Eero Tamminen <oak@helsinkinet.fi>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] hung_task: fix warnings caused by unaligned lock pointers
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 15:23:05 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bd2c4a8-456e-426a-aece-6d21afe80643@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23b67f9d-20ff-4302-810c-bf2d77c52c63@linux.dev>
On 2025/10/8 15:09, Lance Yang wrote:
>
>
> On 2025/10/8 14:14, Finn Thain wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025/10/8 08:40, Finn Thain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Getting back to the $Subject at hand, are people OK with proceeding
>>>>> with Lance's original fix?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lance's patch is probably more appropriate for -stable than the patch I
>>>> proposed -- assuming a fix is needed for -stable.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Apart from that, I believe this fix is still needed for the hung task
>>> detector itself, to prevent unnecessary warnings in a few unexpected
>>> cases.
>>>
>>
>> Can you be more specific about those cases? A fix for a theoretical bug
>> doesn't qualify for -stable branches. But if it's a fix for a real bug, I
>> have misunderstood Andrew's question...
>
> I believe it is a real bug, as it was reported by Eero and Geert[1].
>
> The blocker tracking mechanism in -stable assumes that lock pointers
> are at least 4-byte aligned. As I mentioned previously[2], this
> assumption fails for packed structs on architectures that don't trap
> on unaligned access.
>
> Of course, we could always improve the mechanism to not make
> assumptions. But for -stable, this fix completely resolves the issue
> by ignoring any unaligned pointer, whatever the cause (e.g., packed
> structs, non-native alignment, etc.).
>
> So we can all sleep well at night again :)
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
> CAMuHMdW7Ab13DdGs2acMQcix5ObJK0O2dG_Fxzr8_g58Rc1_0g@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cfb62b9d-9cbd-47dd-
> a894-3357027e2a50@linux.dev/
Forgot to add:
In other words, we are not just fixing the bug reported by Eero
and Geert, but correcting the blocker tracking mechanism's flawed
assumption for -stable ;)
If you feel this doesn't qualify as a fix, I can change the Fixes:
tag to point to the original commit that introduced this flawed
mechanism instead.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Besides those two alternatives, there is also a workaround:
>>>> $ ./scripts/config -d DETECT_HUNG_TASK_BLOCKER
>>>> which may be acceptable to the interested parties (i.e. m68k users).
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a preference. I'll leave it up to the bug reporters (Eero
>>>> and Geert).
>>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-08 7:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 14:52 [PATCH v2 1/1] hung_task: fix warnings caused by unaligned lock pointers Lance Yang
2025-09-09 16:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-09 16:55 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-09 19:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10 0:45 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 7:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10 7:37 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-10 0:07 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 0:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10 1:35 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 1:48 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-10 6:40 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 6:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-10 7:39 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-09-10 7:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10 8:02 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-10 11:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-10 7:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-10 11:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-10-07 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-08 0:40 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08 3:03 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08 6:14 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08 7:09 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08 7:23 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-10-08 10:12 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-08 13:48 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08 21:55 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-09 2:01 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-09 4:04 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-09 7:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 10:11 ` David Laight
2025-10-08 12:56 ` Eero Tamminen
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