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From: Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@urpla.net>
To: Peter Landmann <sfrazt@googlemail.com>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Solving the raid write performance problems
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:29:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2420596.ZXG94NVieB@xrated> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20130402T133516-865@post.gmane.org>

On Dienstag, 2. April 2013 11:36:13 Peter Landmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i'm a university student in end phase and considering to write my master
> thesis about the md raid performance issues and to implement a prototype to
> solve it.
> 
> What i have done and know:
> 1. I wrote a (internal) paper to measure raid performance with SSDs with
> freebsd software raid implementations and md raid under linux. I tested
> RAID 0 and RAID 5 with up to 6 Intel SSDs (X25-M G2, each 20k Write and 40k
> read OPS) and esp for RAID 5 it doesn't scaled. With my fio and general
> environment (bs 4k, iodepth 256, direct=1, randomwrite, spare capacity
> 87,5%, noop scheduler, latest mainline kernel from git, amd phenom II 1055T
> 2,8 GHz, 8GB ram) i got SSDs IOPS
> 3    14497.7
> 4    14005
> 5    17172.3
> 6    19779
> 
> 2. AFAIK the main problem is that md uses only one write thread for each
> raid instance and their is a patch in work but still not availible.
> 
> So my questions:
> 1. Is this problem solved (i know it isn't in mainline)? Is there still some
> work to do?
> 2. If not solved: Why isn't solved already (time? technical problem?
> priority? Not solvable?)
> 3. Is it the only problem? With my tests i captured detailed cpu stats and
> no cpu core was nearly at its capacity. So there are known other big
> reasons for perfomance issues?
> For example: 6 SSD randomwrite:
> CPU    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal  %guest   %idle
> all    1,17    0,00   12,67   12,71    3,27    3,05    0,00    0,00   67,13
> 0    1,41    0,00    7,88   15,42    0,07    0,15    0,00    0,00   75,07
> 1    0,00    0,00   38,04    3,14   19,20   18,08    0,00    0,00   21,54
> 2    1,50    0,00    7,55   14,78    0,07    0,02    0,00    0,00   76,08
> 3    1,09    0,00    7,31   12,15    0,05    0,02    0,00    0,00   79,38
> 4    1,35    0,00    7,41   12,94    0,07    0,00    0,00    0,00   78,23
> 5    1,65    0,00    7,78   17,84    0,12    0,03    0,00    0,00   72,57
> 
> 4. Is this (bringing the raid performance to or near the theoretically
> performance) a work that a man can archieve in less then 6 months without
> practical experience in kernel hacking (and i'm not a genuis :( )

I would start with testing, what's already available. Check out Shaohua Li's 
<shli@kernel.org> post: raid5: create multiple threads to handle stripes
with patches, that are available for linux-next:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=1ae2eeac074fa4511715d988c3fac95b338d00c0

Next, check, if you can address Stan Hoeppner's remarks from that thread.

Compare test runs with variation in # of cores and numa affinity, nothing 
else. Be careful about the SSD state regarding wear leveling. Provide 
performance comparison charts.

Given the already existing work done in this area, I would say, this is easily 
achievable within the given time frame, since only the automatic numa affinity 
adjustments are left as a new task.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Pete

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-02 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-02 11:36 Solving the raid write performance problems Peter Landmann
2013-04-02 13:29 ` Hans-Peter Jansen [this message]
2013-04-02 16:10   ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-04-02 14:14 ` keld
2013-04-02 16:33 ` Piergiorgio Sartor

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