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From: Marc Dietrich <marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Grant Likely
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm/dt: tegra: add dts file for paz00
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:18:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24453918.Ulhj1xIogt@ax5200p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173E1B4536-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

On Tuesday 25 October 2011 23:43:06 Stephen Warren wrote:
> Marc Dietrich wrote at Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:05 PM:
> > On Monday 24 October 2011 22:16:15 Stephen Warren wrote:
> > > Marc Dietrich wrote at Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:17 PM:
> > > > * NOT FOR COMMIT *
> > > > 
> > > > This just adds the dts for paz00. I like to add it to board-dt
> > > > as
> > > > well as soon as I find out which tree to base it on.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra-paz00.dts
> > > 
> > > One thing that cross my mind when writing the TrimSlice support and
> > > I
> > > forgot to mention: Should these files be named ${soc}-${board}.dts
> > > or
> > > ${vendor}-${board}.dts (tegra-paz00.dts or toshiba-paz00.dts or
> > > compal-paz00.dts). I'm OK either way; just want to follow any
> > > outside
> > > expectations.
> > 
> > I also don't know. I prefer compal for paz00 because Toshiba's code name
> > was procyon (I think) and I don't want to change all the naming. Also
> > Toshiba showed no interest in helping us, so I don't see why they
> > should get the fame.
> Well, it's more about correctly defining what the HW is than advertising,
> fame, or support!

define "what the HW is". Warning: the following list is purely fictitious. Any 
similarities between the companies or products mentiond, real or imaginary, 
are coincidental.

	- company A creates a cpu (only the IP) and license it to company N.
	- company N adds some more stuff around it (interfaces, gpu, ...) and 
creates real cpu hw.
	- company T likes the cpu and asks company C to build a computer around it
	- company C takes the evaluation board from company N, modifies it a bit, 
and builds a whole netbook around it
	- company T gets the netbook from company C and adds a operating system 
which will displeased their customers

So how would you define that hw? Or the real question, who made it? And please 
don't take my second argument too serious. I just expressed my anger in an 
improper way at an improper place. Sorry for that.

Marc

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marvin24@gmx.de (Marc Dietrich)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] arm/dt: tegra: add dts file for paz00
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:18:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24453918.Ulhj1xIogt@ax5200p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173E1B4536@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>

On Tuesday 25 October 2011 23:43:06 Stephen Warren wrote:
> Marc Dietrich wrote at Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:05 PM:
> > On Monday 24 October 2011 22:16:15 Stephen Warren wrote:
> > > Marc Dietrich wrote at Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:17 PM:
> > > > * NOT FOR COMMIT *
> > > > 
> > > > This just adds the dts for paz00. I like to add it to board-dt
> > > > as
> > > > well as soon as I find out which tree to base it on.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra-paz00.dts
> > > 
> > > One thing that cross my mind when writing the TrimSlice support and
> > > I
> > > forgot to mention: Should these files be named ${soc}-${board}.dts
> > > or
> > > ${vendor}-${board}.dts (tegra-paz00.dts or toshiba-paz00.dts or
> > > compal-paz00.dts). I'm OK either way; just want to follow any
> > > outside
> > > expectations.
> > 
> > I also don't know. I prefer compal for paz00 because Toshiba's code name
> > was procyon (I think) and I don't want to change all the naming. Also
> > Toshiba showed no interest in helping us, so I don't see why they
> > should get the fame.
> Well, it's more about correctly defining what the HW is than advertising,
> fame, or support!

define "what the HW is". Warning: the following list is purely fictitious. Any 
similarities between the companies or products mentiond, real or imaginary, 
are coincidental.

	- company A creates a cpu (only the IP) and license it to company N.
	- company N adds some more stuff around it (interfaces, gpu, ...) and 
creates real cpu hw.
	- company T likes the cpu and asks company C to build a computer around it
	- company C takes the evaluation board from company N, modifies it a bit, 
and builds a whole netbook around it
	- company T gets the netbook from company C and adds a operating system 
which will displeased their customers

So how would you define that hw? Or the real question, who made it? And please 
don't take my second argument too serious. I just expressed my anger in an 
improper way at an improper place. Sorry for that.

Marc

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-26 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-22 20:16 [PATCH 0/3] paz00 updates for 3.3 Marc Dietrich
     [not found] ` <cover.1319313019.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-22 20:16   ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: tegra: paz00: add support for the embedded controller Marc Dietrich
     [not found]     ` <b5f0dc6e7996a21d4493f8e7765e322fe6d8b7ef.1319313020.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-22 20:27       ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]         ` <CAOesGMhVFk6n0n98akeVdM-cLtK9ip0-M01u9jy8WEdJNU+xsg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-22 20:49           ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-23  6:54             ` Olof Johansson
2011-10-25  5:06       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173E1B4187-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-25  7:16           ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]             ` <CAOesGMgs97awtrKXd=Ek9R62pWMVDtKcxXAx9Xb5_P6wa6wdpg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-25 21:04               ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-26  6:51                 ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-25 19:11           ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: tegra: paz00: add support for the embeddedcontroller Marc Dietrich
2011-10-22 20:16   ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: tegra: paz00: add support for wakeup gpio key Marc Dietrich
     [not found]     ` <41e637f863f255c23f6a6e4af79efeac0f81aff1.1319313020.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-25  5:10       ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-22 20:16   ` [PATCH 3/3] arm/dt: tegra: add dts file for paz00 Marc Dietrich
     [not found]     ` <90ee88bcde84141e0280ffa4ccbd288462489eba.1319313020.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-25  5:16       ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-25  5:16         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173E1B4189-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-25 19:05           ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-25 19:05             ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-26  6:43             ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-26  6:43               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]               ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173E1B4536-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-26 20:18                 ` Marc Dietrich [this message]
2011-10-26 20:18                   ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-25 19:51           ` Rob Herring
2011-10-25 19:51             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <4EA7134C.3050102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-26  6:40               ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-26  6:40                 ` Stephen Warren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-31 19:58 [PATCH v3 0/3] paz00 updates for 3.3 Marc Dietrich
     [not found] ` <cover.1320088857.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-31 19:58   ` [PATCH 3/3] arm/dt: tegra: add dts file for paz00 Marc Dietrich
2011-10-31 19:58     ` Marc Dietrich
     [not found]     ` <855f09f77c03a9f081818a03effdbd3bf7a30c91.1320088857.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-31 20:14       ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-31 20:14         ` Stephen Warren
2011-10-31 22:20         ` Marc Dietrich
2011-10-31 22:20           ` Marc Dietrich
2011-11-01 20:37 [PATCH v4 0/3] paz00 updates for 3.3 Marc Dietrich
     [not found] ` <cover.1320173572.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 20:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] arm/dt: tegra: add dts file for paz00 Marc Dietrich
2011-11-01 20:37     ` Marc Dietrich
     [not found]     ` <f3590ac48475e25c1a583124095809b42570db98.1320173573.git.marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 22:37       ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-01 22:37         ` Stephen Warren

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