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From: "Stephan Müller" <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Lee Duncan <lduncan@suse.com>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>,
	"Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	Chris Leech <cleech@redhat.com>,
	open-iscsi@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v4 06/13] iscsi: ensure RNG is seeded before use
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 10:04:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2639082.PtrrGWOPPL@positron.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02d60ed4-4207-dd7d-8826-0f9f7f4e966d@suse.com>

Am Samstag, 17. Juni 2017, 05:45:57 CEST schrieb Lee Duncan:

Hi Lee,

> In your testing, how long might a process have to wait? Are we talking
> seconds? Longer? What about timeouts?
>

In current kernels (starting with 4.8) this timeout should clear within a few 
seconds after boot.

In older kernels (pre 4.8), my KVM takes up to 90 seconds to reach that 
seeding point. I have heard that on IBM System Z this trigger point requires 
minutes to be reached.

Ciao
Stephan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-18  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 17:47 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 00/13] Unseeded In-Kernel Randomness Fixes Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 01/13] random: invalidate batched entropy after crng init Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-07 23:58   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-07 23:58     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:52     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:52       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 02/13] random: add synchronous API for the urandom pool Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:00   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 03/13] random: add get_random_{bytes,u32,u64,int,long,once}_wait family Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:05   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 04/13] security/keys: ensure RNG is seeded before use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:31   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:31     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:50     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:50       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  1:03       ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  1:03         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 05/13] crypto/rng: ensure that the RNG is ready before using Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:41   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:47     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 06/13] iscsi: ensure RNG is seeded before use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:43   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  2:43     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08 12:09     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-16 21:58       ` Lee Duncan
2017-06-17  0:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-17  3:45           ` Lee Duncan
2017-06-17 14:23             ` Jeffrey Walton
2017-06-17 18:50               ` [kernel-hardening] " Paul Koning
2017-06-17 18:50                 ` Paul Koning
2017-07-05  7:08               ` Antw: Re: [kernel-hardening] " Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05  7:08                 ` Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05  7:08                 ` Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05 13:16                 ` Paul Koning
2017-07-05 17:34                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-07-05 17:34                     ` Antw: " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-18  8:04             ` Stephan Müller [this message]
2017-06-26  1:23               ` [kernel-hardening] " Nicholas A. Bellinger
2017-06-26  1:23                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2017-06-26 17:38                 ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-26 17:38                   ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-30  6:02                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2017-07-05  7:03                   ` Antw: " Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05  7:03                     ` Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05  7:03                     ` Ulrich Windl
2017-07-05 12:35                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 07/13] ceph: ensure RNG is seeded before using Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:45   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 08/13] cifs: use get_random_u32 for 32-bit lock random Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:25   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:25     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  0:31     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  0:34     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 09/13] rhashtable: use get_random_u32 for hash_rnd Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  2:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  2:47     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 10/13] net/neighbor: use get_random_u32 for 32-bit hash random Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:00   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  3:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 11/13] net/route: use get_random_int for random counter Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:01   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  3:01     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 12/13] bluetooth/smp: ensure RNG is properly seeded before ECDH use Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  3:06   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  3:06     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  5:04     ` [kernel-hardening] " Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08  5:04       ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08 12:03       ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 12:03         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 12:05       ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 12:05         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 17:05         ` [kernel-hardening] " Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08 17:05           ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-06-08 17:34           ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 17:34             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-09  1:16             ` [PATCH] bluetooth: ensure RNG is properly seeded before powerup Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 13/13] random: warn when kernel uses unseeded randomness Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-06 17:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  8:19   ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08  8:19     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-08 12:01     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08 12:01       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-15 11:03     ` [kernel-hardening] " Michael Ellerman
2017-06-15 11:59       ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-18 15:46         ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-18 17:55           ` Stephan Müller
2017-06-18 19:12             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-18 19:11           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-08  8:43   ` Jeffrey Walton
2017-06-08  8:43     ` Jeffrey Walton
2017-06-07 12:33 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] Unseeded In-Kernel Randomness Fixes Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-06-07 12:33   ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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