[RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Paul Sokolovsky]

Hello openembedded-devel,

  Nowadays, with multimegabyte software downloads, many projects
provide both tar.bz2 and tar.gz archives for downloads. I'd like to
make a proposal that we prefer tar.bz2 over .gz for obvious reason of
saving bandwidth and disk space for lots of people using OE. In
particular, I'd like to propose that it's ok to change .gz to .bz2 if
such case is spotted.

  We should be reasonably safe with this, as gzip can be considered
pretty well a legacy archiver for big downloads now. The projects
which started use bzip2 hardly give it up. And of course, many
projects alreday use bzip2 solely, so it's not like adding a new
dependency for OE.

  Specifically, I have such patches for gdb_6.4 and libxml2_2.6.26 now
in my tree.

  (One would ask - why do I care up to the level of patchuing existing
recipes? I'm exactly one of bandwidth-challenged, so try to use cheap
local mirrors, and the mirrors of course usually have .bz2. I checked
taht upstream actually provides .bz2, of course.)


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 Paul                          mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Richard Purdie]

On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 00:33 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>   Nowadays, with multimegabyte software downloads, many projects
> provide both tar.bz2 and tar.gz archives for downloads. I'd like to
> make a proposal that we prefer tar.bz2 over .gz for obvious reason of
> saving bandwidth and disk space for lots of people using OE. In
> particular, I'd like to propose that it's ok to change .gz to .bz2 if
> such case is spotted.

FWIW, I'm perfectly ok with that preference. It was mentioned to me a
while ago regarding the Zaurus kernels and I hope I did change to prefer
bz2, I certainly intended to :).

Please go ahead and check in changes for anything you've noticed.

Regards,

Richard

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Justin Patrin]

On 10/20/06, Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello openembedded-devel,
>
>   Nowadays, with multimegabyte software downloads, many projects
> provide both tar.bz2 and tar.gz archives for downloads. I'd like to
> make a proposal that we prefer tar.bz2 over .gz for obvious reason of
> saving bandwidth and disk space for lots of people using OE. In
> particular, I'd like to propose that it's ok to change .gz to .bz2 if
> such case is spotted.
>
>   We should be reasonably safe with this, as gzip can be considered
> pretty well a legacy archiver for big downloads now. The projects
> which started use bzip2 hardly give it up. And of course, many
> projects alreday use bzip2 solely, so it's not like adding a new
> dependency for OE.
>
>   Specifically, I have such patches for gdb_6.4 and libxml2_2.6.26 now
> in my tree.
>
>   (One would ask - why do I care up to the level of patchuing existing
> recipes? I'm exactly one of bandwidth-challenged, so try to use cheap
> local mirrors, and the mirrors of course usually have .bz2. I checked
> taht upstream actually provides .bz2, of course.)
>

What exactly are you referring to? Which distributed files? OE doesn't
really distribute anything but an OE db and that's one-time downloaded
when starting.

If you mean the images distributed from OE, that's a distribution
choice and OZ in particular can't just make the choice to switch
without adding a static binary of bzip2 (for flashing) and changing
its flashing script.

-- 
Justin Patrin

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Richard Purdie]

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:58 -0700, Justin Patrin wrote:
> What exactly are you referring to? Which distributed files? OE doesn't
> really distribute anything but an OE db and that's one-time downloaded
> when starting.
> 
> If you mean the images distributed from OE, that's a distribution
> choice and OZ in particular can't just make the choice to switch
> without adding a static binary of bzip2 (for flashing) and changing
> its flashing script.

I think Paul means things other people distribute i.e. packages
referenced in SRC_URIs. He's suggesting we prefer bz2 over gz given a
choice which seems like a good idea.

Cheers,

Richard

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Justin Patrin]

On 10/20/06, Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:58 -0700, Justin Patrin wrote:
> > What exactly are you referring to? Which distributed files? OE doesn't
> > really distribute anything but an OE db and that's one-time downloaded
> > when starting.
> >
> > If you mean the images distributed from OE, that's a distribution
> > choice and OZ in particular can't just make the choice to switch
> > without adding a static binary of bzip2 (for flashing) and changing
> > its flashing script.
>
> I think Paul means things other people distribute i.e. packages
> referenced in SRC_URIs. He's suggesting we prefer bz2 over gz given a
> choice which seems like a good idea.
>

Oh, is *that* what he meant... Yeah, that's a good idea. ;-)

-- 
Justin Patrin

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Paul Sokolovsky]

Hello Justin,

Saturday, October 21, 2006, 3:41:23 AM, you wrote:

> On 10/20/06, Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:58 -0700, Justin Patrin wrote:
>> > What exactly are you referring to? Which distributed files? OE doesn't
>> > really distribute anything but an OE db and that's one-time downloaded
>> > when starting.
>> >
>> > If you mean the images distributed from OE, that's a distribution
>> > choice and OZ in particular can't just make the choice to switch
>> > without adding a static binary of bzip2 (for flashing) and changing
>> > its flashing script.
>>
>> I think Paul means things other people distribute i.e. packages
>> referenced in SRC_URIs. He's suggesting we prefer bz2 over gz given a
>> choice which seems like a good idea.
>>

> Oh, is *that* what he meant... Yeah, that's a good idea. ;-)

  Sorry, my English skills might deteriorate towards midnight ;-)
Actually, jsut wanted to commit, asked Koen, he suggested post RFC to
list, hence the rambling... ;-)




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 Paul                            mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com

Re: [RFC] Preferring tar.bz2 over tar.gz if there's a choice

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

I'm all for it -- go ahead.

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