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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Tom Gebhardt <tomge68@gmail.com>, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] sched/fair/schedutil: Better manage system response time
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 11:01:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c59186-4ba0-44f4-b5b8-42f6f73cd3e6@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32dea9123588227a02971341b22e84d3.tomge68@gmail.com>

On 5/15/26 09:24, Tom Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi Qais,
> 
> Thanks for the follow-up. Here are the patch isolation results and answers to your questions.
> 
> Regarding the governor:
> 
> Yes, I'm running `ondemand`, not `schedutil`. My mistake for not mentioning that upfront - I
> assumed the improvement was due to the util_est path being triggered regardless of the governor.
> The improvement is clearly measurable even with `ondemand`, which is surprising given that your
> patches specifically target `schedutil`.

Something is wrong, as Qais mentioned raspberry pi (SMP) with ondemand shouldn't be affected by
util_est changes. In particular with 4 mostly-running workers and 4 CPUs.
Does patch 12 also show similar effects with powersave/performance cpufreq governor?
Qais also split patch 12 out separately and Vincent posted a fix, care to give that a try?
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/agRyoe1wHyZ-vMk9@vingu-cube/
Thanks for testing these, I'll try to reproduce what you're seeing, too.

> [snip]

      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04  1:59 [PATCH v2 00/13] sched/fair/schedutil: Better manage system response time Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] sched: cpufreq: Rename map_util_perf to sugov_apply_dvfs_headroom Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate the future util_avg value Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate runtime to reach given util Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] sched/fair: Remove magic hardcoded margin in fits_capacity() Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] sched: cpufreq: Remove magic 1.25 headroom from sugov_apply_dvfs_headroom() Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] sched/fair: Extend util_est to improve rampup time Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] sched/fair: util_est: Take into account periodic tasks Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 08/13] sched/qos: Add a new sched-qos interface Qais Yousef
2026-05-06 20:38   ` Tim Chen
2026-05-07  9:55     ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-07 14:20       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-05-09  9:39         ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-11 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-12  7:58     ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-12  8:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-12  8:47         ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] sched/qos: Add rampup multiplier QoS Qais Yousef
2026-05-11 11:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-12  7:59     ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-12  8:37       ` Christian Loehle
2026-05-12  8:53         ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] sched/fair: Disable util_est when rampup_multiplier is 0 Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] sched/fair: Don't mess with util_avg post init Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] sched/fair: Call update_util_est() after dequeue_entities() Qais Yousef
2026-05-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 RFC 13/13] sched/pelt: Always allow load updates Qais Yousef
2026-05-11 17:58 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] sched/fair/schedutil: Better manage system response time John Stultz
2026-05-12  8:01   ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-13 15:09 ` Tom Gebhardt
2026-05-15  1:42   ` Qais Yousef
2026-05-15  8:24     ` Tom Gebhardt
2026-05-15 10:01       ` Christian Loehle [this message]

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