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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Arunpravin Paneer Selvam <arunpravin.paneerselvam@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	luben.tuikov@amd.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, matthew.auld@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] drm/ttm: Add new callbacks to ttm res mgr
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <291548ba-3fbe-6a7d-eda1-ac12f1e799ff@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxjOOLGVbFvtrwrF@phenom.ffwll.local>

Am 07.09.22 um 19:00 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> [SNIP]
>>> I'm a bit confused why the bloat here ...
>> Drivers do have specialized implementations of the backend, e.g. VMWGFX have
>> his handle backend, amdgpu the VRAM backend with special placements, i915 is
>> completely special as well.
>>
>> Here we only move the decision if resources intersect or are compatible into
>> those specialized backends. Previously we had all this in a centralized
>> callback for all backends of a driver.
>>
>> See the switch in amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable() for an example. Final
>> goal is to move all this stuff into the specialized backends and remove this
>> callback.
>>
>> The only driver where I couldn't figure out why we have duplicated all this
>> from the standard implementation is Nouveau.
> Yeah I didn't read this too carefully, apologies.
>
>>> Also please document new callbacks precisely with inline kerneldoc. I know
>>> ttm docs aren't great yet, but they don't get better if we don't start
>>> somewhere. I think the in-depth comments for modeset vfuncs (e.g. in
>>> drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h) are a good standard here.
>> I thought we already did that. Please be a bit more specific.
> Yeah rushed this too, but the kerneldoc isn't too great yet. It's
> definitely not formatted correctly (you can't do a full function
> definition in a struct unfortunately, see the examples I linked). And it
> would be good to specificy what the default implementation is, that there
> is one (i.e. the hook is optional) and when exactly a driver would want to
> overwrite this. Atm it's a one-liner that explains exactly as much as you
> can guess from the function interface anyway, that's not super userful.
> -Daniel

Arun can you take care of improving this?

Thanks,
Christian.

>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Christian.
>>
>>> -Daniel
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Arun
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Arunpravin Paneer Selvam <arunpravin.paneerselvam@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	luben.tuikov@amd.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, matthew.auld@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v6 1/6] drm/ttm: Add new callbacks to ttm res mgr
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <291548ba-3fbe-6a7d-eda1-ac12f1e799ff@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxjOOLGVbFvtrwrF@phenom.ffwll.local>

Am 07.09.22 um 19:00 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> [SNIP]
>>> I'm a bit confused why the bloat here ...
>> Drivers do have specialized implementations of the backend, e.g. VMWGFX have
>> his handle backend, amdgpu the VRAM backend with special placements, i915 is
>> completely special as well.
>>
>> Here we only move the decision if resources intersect or are compatible into
>> those specialized backends. Previously we had all this in a centralized
>> callback for all backends of a driver.
>>
>> See the switch in amdgpu_ttm_bo_eviction_valuable() for an example. Final
>> goal is to move all this stuff into the specialized backends and remove this
>> callback.
>>
>> The only driver where I couldn't figure out why we have duplicated all this
>> from the standard implementation is Nouveau.
> Yeah I didn't read this too carefully, apologies.
>
>>> Also please document new callbacks precisely with inline kerneldoc. I know
>>> ttm docs aren't great yet, but they don't get better if we don't start
>>> somewhere. I think the in-depth comments for modeset vfuncs (e.g. in
>>> drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h) are a good standard here.
>> I thought we already did that. Please be a bit more specific.
> Yeah rushed this too, but the kerneldoc isn't too great yet. It's
> definitely not formatted correctly (you can't do a full function
> definition in a struct unfortunately, see the examples I linked). And it
> would be good to specificy what the default implementation is, that there
> is one (i.e. the hook is optional) and when exactly a driver would want to
> overwrite this. Atm it's a one-liner that explains exactly as much as you
> can guess from the function interface anyway, that's not super userful.
> -Daniel

Arun can you take care of improving this?

Thanks,
Christian.

>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Christian.
>>
>>> -Daniel
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Arun
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-08  6:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-12 13:30 [PATCH v6 1/6] drm/ttm: Add new callbacks to ttm res mgr Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] drm/ttm: Implement intersect/compatible functions Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] drm/amdgpu: " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] drm/i915: " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] drm/nouveau: " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] drm/ttm: Switch to using the new res callback Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-12 13:46 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: warning for series starting with [v6,1/6] drm/ttm: Add new callbacks to ttm res mgr Patchwork
2022-08-12 14:09 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2022-08-12 20:45 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork
2022-08-15 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] " Christian König
2022-08-15 11:05   ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-08-16  5:03   ` Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-16  5:03     ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-09-06 19:58     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-09-06 19:58       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-09-07  6:45       ` Christian König
2022-09-07  6:45         ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-09-07 17:00         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-09-07 17:00           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-09-07 17:00           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-09-08  6:04           ` Christian König [this message]
2022-09-08  6:04             ` Christian König
2022-09-08 11:08             ` Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-09-08 11:08               ` [Intel-gfx] " Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-20  7:32 Arunpravin Paneer Selvam
2022-08-22 13:38 ` Christian König

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