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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Eric Whiting <ewhiting@amis.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact]
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:21:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29510000.1081380104@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040407230140.GT26888@dualathlon.random>

> I agree as well it solves a real problem (i.e. 4G userspace), though the
> userbase that needs it is extremely limited and they're sure ok to run
> slower than to change their application to use shmfs (a special 4:4
> kernel may be ok, just like a special 2.5:1.5 may be ok, just like
> 3.5:0.5 was ok for similar reasons too), but the mass market doesn't
> need 4:4 and it will never need it, so it's bad to have the masses pay
> for this relevant worthless runtime overhead in various common
> workloads.

Yeah, it needs to be a separate kernel for huge blobby machines. I think
that's exactly what RH does, IIRC (> 16GB ?)
 
> Of course above I'm talking about 2.6-aa or 2.6-mjb. Clearly with
> kernels including rmap like 2.6 mainline or 2.6-mm or 2.6-mc or the
> 2.4-rmap patches you need 4:4 everywhere, even on a 4/8G box to avoid
> running out of normal zone in some fairly common and important workload.

Speaking of which, pte_highmem is stinking expensive itself. There's
probably a large class of workloads that'd work with out pte_highmem
if we had 4/4 split (or shared pagetables. Grrr ;-))

M.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-07 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-05 16:36 -mmX 4G patches feedback Eric Whiting
2004-04-05 17:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-05 21:35   ` Eric Whiting
2004-04-05 22:16     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 11:55       ` -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact] Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 14:49         ` Eric Whiting
2004-04-06 15:59         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 16:13           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-06 16:39             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 17:24           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 17:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 22:54               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 22:50                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 19:25           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 20:25             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  6:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  6:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07  7:23                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  8:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07 21:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 17:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  7:25               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07 21:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 22:58             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 23:01               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 23:21                 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-04-07 23:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 23:34                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08  0:18                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08  6:24                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 21:59                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 22:19                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 22:19                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 23:14                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 23:22                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 23:42                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 23:49                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 21:19       ` -mmX 4G patches feedback Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 21:49         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-06 17:59 -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact] Manfred Spraul
2004-04-06 18:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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