From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
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"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/16] TDX: Enable Dynamic PAMT
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 16:02:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b951e427c3f3f06fc310d151b7c9e960c32ec3f.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f772a23-ea7f-40eb-8852-49f5e3e16c15@intel.com>
On Fri, 2025-09-26 at 07:09 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/25/25 19:28, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > Lastly, Yan raised some last minute doubts internally about TDX
> > > module locking contention. I’m not sure there is a problem, but
> > > we
> > > can come to an agreement as part of the review.
> > Yes, I found a contention issue that prevents us from dropping the
> > global lock. I've also written a sample test that demonstrates this
> > contention.
> But what is the end result when this contention happens? Does
> everyone livelock?
You get a TDX_OPERAND_BUSY error code returned. Inside the TDX module
each lock is a try lock. The TDX module tries to take a sequence of
locks and if it meets any contention it will release them all and
return the TDX_OPERAND_BUSY. Some paths in KVM cannot handle failure
and so don't have a way to handle the error.
So another option to handling this is just to retry until you succeed.
Then you have a very strange spinlock with a heavyweight inner loop.
But since each time the locks are released, some astronomical bad
timing might prevent forward progress. On the KVM side we have avoided
looping. Although, I think we have not exhausted this path.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-26 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-18 23:22 [PATCH v3 00/16] TDX: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] x86/tdx: Move all TDX error defines into <asm/shared/tdx_errno.h> Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 1:29 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-25 23:23 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-25 23:32 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-23 5:49 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-25 23:09 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-26 5:36 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-26 4:52 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-26 19:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] x86/tdx: Add helpers to check return status codes Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 1:26 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-25 23:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-23 6:19 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-25 23:24 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-26 6:32 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-26 21:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] x86/virt/tdx: Simplify tdmr_get_pamt_sz() Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 0:50 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-19 19:26 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-29 11:44 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-29 17:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate page bitmap for Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-23 7:15 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-25 23:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-26 8:41 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-26 21:57 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-26 22:06 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-06 19:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate reference counters for PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-23 7:45 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-29 17:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-29 18:08 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-30 1:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] x86/virt/tdx: Improve PAMT refcounters allocation for sparse memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 7:25 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-23 9:38 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-24 6:50 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-24 8:57 ` Binbin Wu
2025-10-01 0:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-01 10:40 ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-01 19:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-01 20:49 ` Huang, Kai
2025-10-15 1:35 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-22 11:27 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-26 22:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-29 7:56 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-29 17:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-30 14:03 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-30 17:38 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-30 17:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-30 15:25 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-30 17:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] x86/virt/tdx: Optimize " Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 9:39 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-24 6:15 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for TD control structures Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for vCPU " Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] KVM: TDX: Add x86 ops for external spt cache Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 9:44 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-23 7:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-26 22:10 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-28 8:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-24 7:58 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-30 1:02 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-30 17:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add helpers to allow for pre-allocating pages Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-19 9:55 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-01 19:48 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-22 11:20 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-26 23:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-28 22:56 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-29 12:10 ` Huang, Kai
2025-09-26 1:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-26 22:05 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-28 1:40 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-26 15:19 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-26 15:49 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] KVM: TDX: Handle PAMT allocation in fault path Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-30 1:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-30 18:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] KVM: TDX: Reclaim PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-18 23:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX's " Rick Edgecombe
2025-09-26 2:28 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] TDX: Enable " Yan Zhao
2025-09-26 14:09 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-26 16:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-09-26 16:11 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-26 19:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-26 19:03 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-26 19:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-28 1:34 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-29 11:17 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-29 16:22 ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-29 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-30 18:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
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