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From: Egon Alter <egon.alter@gmx.net>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Albin Tonnerre <albin.tonnerre@free-electrons.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for LZ4-compressed kernels
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:43:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34874167.ghObrToI03@fb07-iapwap2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130129101549.GP23505@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013, 10:15:49 schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 02:25:10PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > What's this "with enabled unaligned memory access" thing?  You mean "if
> > the arch supports CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS"?  If so,
> > that's only x86, which isn't really in the target market for this
> > patch, yes?
> > 
> > It's a lot of code for a 50ms boot-time improvement.  Does anyone have
> > any opinions on whether or not the benefits are worth the cost?
> 
> Well... when I saw this my immediate reaction was "oh no, yet another
> decompressor for the kernel".  We have five of these things already.
> Do we really need a sixth?
> 
> My feeling is that we should have:
> - one decompressor which is the fastest
> - one decompressor for the highest compression ratio
> - one popular decompressor (eg conventional gzip)

the problem gets more complicated as the "fastest" decompressor usually 
creates larger images which need more time to load from the storage, e.g. a 
one MB larger image on a 10 MB/s storage (note: bootloaders often configure 
the  storage controllers in slow modes) gives 100 ms more boot time, thus 
eating the gain of a "fast decompressor".

	Egon


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From: egon.alter@gmx.net (Egon Alter)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for LZ4-compressed kernels
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:43:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34874167.ghObrToI03@fb07-iapwap2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130129101549.GP23505@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013, 10:15:49 schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 02:25:10PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > What's this "with enabled unaligned memory access" thing?  You mean "if
> > the arch supports CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS"?  If so,
> > that's only x86, which isn't really in the target market for this
> > patch, yes?
> > 
> > It's a lot of code for a 50ms boot-time improvement.  Does anyone have
> > any opinions on whether or not the benefits are worth the cost?
> 
> Well... when I saw this my immediate reaction was "oh no, yet another
> decompressor for the kernel".  We have five of these things already.
> Do we really need a sixth?
> 
> My feeling is that we should have:
> - one decompressor which is the fastest
> - one decompressor for the highest compression ratio
> - one popular decompressor (eg conventional gzip)

the problem gets more complicated as the "fastest" decompressor usually 
creates larger images which need more time to load from the storage, e.g. a 
one MB larger image on a 10 MB/s storage (note: bootloaders often configure 
the  storage controllers in slow modes) gives 100 ms more boot time, thus 
eating the gain of a "fast decompressor".

	Egon

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-26  5:50 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for LZ4-compressed kernels Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50 ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] decompressors: add lz4 decompressor module Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50   ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] lib: add support for LZ4-compressed kernels Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50   ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] arm: " Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50   ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86: " Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-26  5:50   ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-01-28 22:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add " Andrew Morton
2013-01-28 22:25   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-29  1:16   ` kyungsik.lee
2013-01-29  1:16     ` kyungsik.lee
2013-01-29  4:29   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-29  4:29     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-29  6:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-29  6:18       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-30 10:23     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2013-01-30 10:23       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2013-02-04  2:02       ` Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer
2013-02-04  2:02         ` Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer
2013-02-04 10:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 10:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 11:39           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2013-02-05 11:39             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2013-01-29  7:26   ` Richard Cochran
2013-01-29  7:26     ` Richard Cochran
2013-01-29 10:15   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 10:15     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 11:43     ` Egon Alter [this message]
2013-01-29 11:43       ` Egon Alter
2013-01-29 12:15       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 12:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01  8:15       ` kyungsik.lee
2013-02-01  8:15         ` kyungsik.lee
2013-01-30  3:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-30  3:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-30 18:33       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-30 18:33         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-31 21:48         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-31 21:48           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-31 22:16           ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-31 22:16             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-01-31 22:18             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-31 22:18               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-01  2:28               ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-01  2:28                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-01  6:37                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-01  6:37                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-29 21:09   ` Rajesh Pawar
2013-01-29 21:09     ` Rajesh Pawar
2013-02-01  7:00     ` kyungsik.lee
2013-02-01  7:00       ` kyungsik.lee
2013-02-04  1:37       ` Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer
2013-02-04  1:37         ` Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer
2013-01-29 22:55 ` David Sterba
2013-01-29 22:55   ` David Sterba
2013-01-30  4:03   ` 이경식
2013-01-30  4:27   ` 이경식
2013-02-01  7:13   ` kyungsik.lee
2013-02-01  7:13     ` kyungsik.lee

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