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From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Keith Zhao <keith.zhao@starfivetech.com>,
	Shengyu Qu <wiagn233@outlook.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>, Jagan Teki <jagan@edgeble.ai>,
	Chris Morgan <macromorgan@hotmail.com>,
	Jack Zhu <jack.zhu@starfivetech.com>,
	Shengyang Chen <shengyang.chen@starfivetech.com>,
	Changhuang Liang <changhuang.liang@starfivetech.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] dt-bindings: display: Add yamls for JH7110 display subsystem
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2023 10:40:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3560873.iIbC2pHGDl@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230606-geometry-blurb-1f0f07d4bf6a@spud>

Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2023, 00:37:53 CEST schrieb Conor Dooley:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 12:22:33AM +0200, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 6. Juni 2023, 20:41:17 CEST schrieb Shengyu Qu:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 03:40:35PM +0800, Keith Zhao wrote:
> > > >> Add bindings for JH7110 display subsystem which
> > > >> has a display controller verisilicon dc8200
> > > >> and an HDMI interface.
> 
> > > >> +description:
> > > >> +  The StarFive SoC uses the HDMI signal transmiter based on innosilicon IP
> > > > Is innosilicon the same thing as verisilicon? Also
> > > > s/transmiter/transmitter/, both here and in the title.
> > > 
> > > I think that is not the same, I remember Rockchip has used a HDMI 
> > > transmitter from
> > > 
> > > Innosilicon, and there is a existing driver for that in mainline.
> > 
> > Yep, I think Innosilicon is the company you turn to when you want to save
> > a bit of money ;-) . In the bigger SoCs Rockchip most of the time uses
> > Designware hdmi blocks and looking at the history only the rk3036 ever
> > used an Innosilicon block.
> > 
> > Looking at the history, 2016 really was a long time ago :-D.
> > 
> > > So Keith, if that's true, I think it is better to seperate the HDMI 
> > > stuff and reuse existing driver.
> > 
> > I'm not so sure about that - at least from a cursory glance :-) .
> > 
> > The registers do look slightly different and I don't know how much
> > the IP changed between the rk3036-version and the jh7110 version.
> > 
> > At the very least, I know my rk3036 board isn't booting right now, so
> > I can't really provide help for generalizing the rockchip-driver.
> > 
> > At the very least both the binding and driver could drop the "starfive-hdmi"
> > and actually use the Innosilicon in the naming somewhere, so that it's
> > clear for future developers :-)
> 
> Seeing "based on" always makes me a little bit nervous to be honest when
> it comes to using a compatible from the IP. Is it the IP? What version
> is it? etc. Perhaps "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" & falling back to some sort
> of "innosilicon,hdmi" would be more future/IP-silliness proof.
> Driver can always be generic & bind against "innosilicon,hdmi" until
> that becomes impossible.


what Connor said makes a lot of sense. Just name the compatible
after the actual implementation - aka "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" .

This is similar to what the rk3036 does with its
"rockchip,rk3036-inno-hdmi". That way you're nicely independent
and future proof.


Heiko



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From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Keith Zhao <keith.zhao@starfivetech.com>,
	Shengyu Qu <wiagn233@outlook.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>, Jagan Teki <jagan@edgeble.ai>,
	Chris Morgan <macromorgan@hotmail.com>,
	Jack Zhu <jack.zhu@starfivetech.com>,
	Shengyang Chen <shengyang.chen@starfivetech.com>,
	Changhuang Liang <changhuang.liang@starfivetech.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] dt-bindings: display: Add yamls for JH7110 display subsystem
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2023 10:40:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3560873.iIbC2pHGDl@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230606-geometry-blurb-1f0f07d4bf6a@spud>

Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2023, 00:37:53 CEST schrieb Conor Dooley:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 12:22:33AM +0200, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 6. Juni 2023, 20:41:17 CEST schrieb Shengyu Qu:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 03:40:35PM +0800, Keith Zhao wrote:
> > > >> Add bindings for JH7110 display subsystem which
> > > >> has a display controller verisilicon dc8200
> > > >> and an HDMI interface.
> 
> > > >> +description:
> > > >> +  The StarFive SoC uses the HDMI signal transmiter based on innosilicon IP
> > > > Is innosilicon the same thing as verisilicon? Also
> > > > s/transmiter/transmitter/, both here and in the title.
> > > 
> > > I think that is not the same, I remember Rockchip has used a HDMI 
> > > transmitter from
> > > 
> > > Innosilicon, and there is a existing driver for that in mainline.
> > 
> > Yep, I think Innosilicon is the company you turn to when you want to save
> > a bit of money ;-) . In the bigger SoCs Rockchip most of the time uses
> > Designware hdmi blocks and looking at the history only the rk3036 ever
> > used an Innosilicon block.
> > 
> > Looking at the history, 2016 really was a long time ago :-D.
> > 
> > > So Keith, if that's true, I think it is better to seperate the HDMI 
> > > stuff and reuse existing driver.
> > 
> > I'm not so sure about that - at least from a cursory glance :-) .
> > 
> > The registers do look slightly different and I don't know how much
> > the IP changed between the rk3036-version and the jh7110 version.
> > 
> > At the very least, I know my rk3036 board isn't booting right now, so
> > I can't really provide help for generalizing the rockchip-driver.
> > 
> > At the very least both the binding and driver could drop the "starfive-hdmi"
> > and actually use the Innosilicon in the naming somewhere, so that it's
> > clear for future developers :-)
> 
> Seeing "based on" always makes me a little bit nervous to be honest when
> it comes to using a compatible from the IP. Is it the IP? What version
> is it? etc. Perhaps "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" & falling back to some sort
> of "innosilicon,hdmi" would be more future/IP-silliness proof.
> Driver can always be generic & bind against "innosilicon,hdmi" until
> that becomes impossible.


what Connor said makes a lot of sense. Just name the compatible
after the actual implementation - aka "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" .

This is similar to what the rk3036 does with its
"rockchip,rk3036-inno-hdmi". That way you're nicely independent
and future proof.


Heiko



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Shengyu Qu <wiagn233@outlook.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Shengyang Chen <shengyang.chen@starfivetech.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>, Jagan Teki <jagan@edgeble.ai>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Chris Morgan <macromorgan@hotmail.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Keith Zhao <keith.zhao@starfivetech.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Changhuang Liang <changhuang.liang@starfivetech.com>,
	Jack Zhu <jack.zhu@starfivetech.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] dt-bindings: display: Add yamls for JH7110 display subsystem
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2023 10:40:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3560873.iIbC2pHGDl@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230606-geometry-blurb-1f0f07d4bf6a@spud>

Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2023, 00:37:53 CEST schrieb Conor Dooley:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 12:22:33AM +0200, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 6. Juni 2023, 20:41:17 CEST schrieb Shengyu Qu:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 03:40:35PM +0800, Keith Zhao wrote:
> > > >> Add bindings for JH7110 display subsystem which
> > > >> has a display controller verisilicon dc8200
> > > >> and an HDMI interface.
> 
> > > >> +description:
> > > >> +  The StarFive SoC uses the HDMI signal transmiter based on innosilicon IP
> > > > Is innosilicon the same thing as verisilicon? Also
> > > > s/transmiter/transmitter/, both here and in the title.
> > > 
> > > I think that is not the same, I remember Rockchip has used a HDMI 
> > > transmitter from
> > > 
> > > Innosilicon, and there is a existing driver for that in mainline.
> > 
> > Yep, I think Innosilicon is the company you turn to when you want to save
> > a bit of money ;-) . In the bigger SoCs Rockchip most of the time uses
> > Designware hdmi blocks and looking at the history only the rk3036 ever
> > used an Innosilicon block.
> > 
> > Looking at the history, 2016 really was a long time ago :-D.
> > 
> > > So Keith, if that's true, I think it is better to seperate the HDMI 
> > > stuff and reuse existing driver.
> > 
> > I'm not so sure about that - at least from a cursory glance :-) .
> > 
> > The registers do look slightly different and I don't know how much
> > the IP changed between the rk3036-version and the jh7110 version.
> > 
> > At the very least, I know my rk3036 board isn't booting right now, so
> > I can't really provide help for generalizing the rockchip-driver.
> > 
> > At the very least both the binding and driver could drop the "starfive-hdmi"
> > and actually use the Innosilicon in the naming somewhere, so that it's
> > clear for future developers :-)
> 
> Seeing "based on" always makes me a little bit nervous to be honest when
> it comes to using a compatible from the IP. Is it the IP? What version
> is it? etc. Perhaps "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" & falling back to some sort
> of "innosilicon,hdmi" would be more future/IP-silliness proof.
> Driver can always be generic & bind against "innosilicon,hdmi" until
> that becomes impossible.


what Connor said makes a lot of sense. Just name the compatible
after the actual implementation - aka "starfive,jh7110-hdmi" .

This is similar to what the rk3036 does with its
"rockchip,rk3036-inno-hdmi". That way you're nicely independent
and future proof.


Heiko



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-07  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02  7:40 [PATCH 0/9] Add DRM driver for StarFive SoC JH7110 Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] dt-bindings: display: Add yamls for JH7110 display subsystem Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02 18:21   ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-02 18:21     ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-02 18:21     ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-06 18:41     ` Shengyu Qu
2023-06-06 18:41       ` Shengyu Qu
2023-06-06 18:41       ` Shengyu Qu
2023-06-06 22:22       ` Heiko Stübner
2023-06-06 22:22         ` Heiko Stübner
2023-06-06 22:22         ` Heiko Stübner
2023-06-06 22:37         ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-06 22:37           ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-06 22:37           ` Conor Dooley
2023-06-07  6:41           ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-07  6:41             ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-07  6:41             ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-07  8:02             ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-07  8:02               ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-07  8:40           ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2023-06-07  8:40             ` Heiko Stübner
2023-06-07  8:40             ` Heiko Stübner
2023-06-07  7:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-07  7:35     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-07  7:35     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 2/9] riscv: dts: starfive: jh7110: add dc&hdmi controller node Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-07  7:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-07  7:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-07  7:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 3/9] drm/verisilicon: Add basic drm driver Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-07  8:53   ` Lucas Stach
2023-06-07  8:53     ` Lucas Stach
2023-06-07  8:53     ` Lucas Stach
2023-07-25  3:12     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-25  3:12       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-25  3:12       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-25 11:23       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-25 11:23         ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-25 11:23         ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-19 12:59   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 12:59     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 12:59     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-07 18:09     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-07 18:09       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-07 18:09       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-08 19:11       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-08 19:11         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-08 19:11         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-13 15:14         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-13 15:14           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-13 15:14           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-07-03 18:42   ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-03 18:42     ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-03 18:42     ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-04  6:09     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-04  6:09       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-04  6:09       ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 4/9] drm/verisilicon: Add gem driver for JH7110 SoC Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-19 13:18   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 13:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 13:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-20 10:00     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-20 10:00       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-20 10:00       ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-19 14:22   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 14:22     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-19 14:22     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-21 10:44     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-21 10:44       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-21 10:44       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm/verisilicon: Add mode config funcs Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-21 11:04   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-21 11:04     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-21 11:04     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-21  9:06     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-21  9:06       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-21  9:06       ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm/verisilicon: Add drm crtc funcs Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-30 11:55   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 11:55     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 11:55     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-21 11:57     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-21 11:57       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-21 11:57       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-21 12:32       ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-07-21 12:32         ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-07-21 12:32         ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm/verisilicon: Add drm plane funcs Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-30 12:14   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 12:14     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 12:14     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-10 16:46   ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-10 16:46     ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-10 16:46     ` Shengyu Qu
2023-07-11  1:44     ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-11  1:44       ` Keith Zhao
2023-07-11  1:44       ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/verisilicon: Add verisilicon dc controller driver Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-30 12:36   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 12:36     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 12:36     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-02  7:40 ` [PATCH 9/9] drm/verisilicon: Add starfive hdmi driver Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-02  7:40   ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-05  8:08   ` Philipp Zabel
2023-06-05  8:08     ` Philipp Zabel
2023-06-05  8:08     ` Philipp Zabel
2023-06-05  9:56   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-05  9:56     ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-05  9:56     ` Maxime Ripard
2023-06-23  2:38   ` Hoegeun Kwon
2023-06-23  2:38     ` Hoegeun Kwon
2023-06-23  2:38     ` Hoegeun Kwon
2023-06-26  5:34     ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-26  5:34       ` Keith Zhao
2023-06-22 18:19 ` [PATCH 0/9] Add DRM driver for StarFive SoC JH7110 Palmer Dabbelt
2023-06-22 18:19   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-06-22 18:19   ` Palmer Dabbelt

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