From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] New zoned loop block device driver
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 14:11:10 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3635a8f9-e4fa-434b-aeee-95477ed4f6e8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a1314db-ed44-4c22-8fc1-0cf672003026@kernel.dk>
On 1/8/25 6:08 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> A kernel-based implementation is simpler and the configuration
>> interface literally needs only a single echo bash command to add or
>> remove devices. This allows minimal VM configurations with no
>> dependencies on user tools/libraries to run these zoned devices, which
>> is what we wanted.
>>
>> I completely agree about the user-space vs kernel tradeoff you
>> mentioned. I did consider it but the code simplicity and ease of use
>> in practice won for us and I chose to stick with the kernel driver
>> approach.
>>
>> Note that if you are OK with this, I need to send a V2 to correct the
>> Kconfig description which currently shows an invalid configuration
>> command example.
>
> Sure, I'm not totally against it, even if I think the arguments are
> very weak, and in some places also just wrong. It's not like it's a
> huge driver.
I am not going to try contesting that our arguments are somewhat weak. Yes, if
we spend enough time on it, we could eventually get something workable with ublk.
But with that said, when you spend your days developing and testing stuff for
zoned storage, having a super easy to use emulation setup for VMs without any
userspace dependencies does a world of good for productivity. That is a strong
argument for those involved, I think.
So may I send V2 for getting it queued up ?
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-08 5:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-06 14:24 [PATCH 0/2] New zoned loop block device driver Damien Le Moal
2025-01-06 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: new " Damien Le Moal
2025-01-06 14:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation: Document the " Damien Le Moal
2025-01-06 14:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] New " Jens Axboe
2025-01-06 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 15:24 ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-06 15:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 15:38 ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-06 15:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 17:38 ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-06 18:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-07 21:10 ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-08 5:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-07 1:08 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-07 21:08 ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-08 5:11 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-01-08 5:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-08 2:47 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-08 14:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-08 2:29 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-08 5:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-08 8:13 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-08 9:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-08 9:39 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-10 12:34 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-24 9:30 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-24 12:30 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-24 14:20 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-01-29 8:10 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-31 3:54 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-04 3:22 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-02-05 3:43 ` Ming Lei
2025-02-05 6:07 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-02-06 3:24 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-08 5:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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