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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller-T9tCv8IpfcWELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Herbert Xu
	<herbert-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-crypto-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] crypto: add algif_akcipher user space API
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:12:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3674514.AfR75N8aU6@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F0D283A6-37C8-47EC-9DE0-998B8A59F138-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>

Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2015, 11:56:59 schrieb Marcel Holtmann:

Hi Marcel,
>> 
>> With all due respect, I would object here. When we say yes to TLS (even if
>> it is parts of TLS up to the point where the KDF happens), we invite all
>> higher level crypto implementations: IKE, SNMP, SSH -- I would not want to
>> go down that path that started by simply supporting accelerated asymmetric
>> ciphers.
>Reality is that TLS in the kernel is happening. Reality is also that we do

This is simply wrong IMHO for anything beyond the key handling. But that is 
not the topic here, I guess.


Ciao
Stephan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] crypto: add algif_akcipher user space API
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:12:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3674514.AfR75N8aU6@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F0D283A6-37C8-47EC-9DE0-998B8A59F138@holtmann.org>

Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2015, 11:56:59 schrieb Marcel Holtmann:

Hi Marcel,
>> 
>> With all due respect, I would object here. When we say yes to TLS (even if
>> it is parts of TLS up to the point where the KDF happens), we invite all
>> higher level crypto implementations: IKE, SNMP, SSH -- I would not want to
>> go down that path that started by simply supporting accelerated asymmetric
>> ciphers.
>Reality is that TLS in the kernel is happening. Reality is also that we do

This is simply wrong IMHO for anything beyond the key handling. But that is 
not the topic here, I guess.


Ciao
Stephan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-28 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-18 10:44 [PATCH v2 0/5] crypto: add algif_akcipher user space API Stephan Mueller
2015-10-18 10:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] MPI: fix off by one in mpi_read_raw_from_sgl Stephan Mueller
2015-10-19 23:25   ` Tadeusz Struk
     [not found]   ` <3192672.E3TvJmsW94-Veo+UhszpQh6vwJ5+F2VIg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 14:20     ` Herbert Xu
2015-10-20 14:20       ` Herbert Xu
2015-10-18 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] crypto: AF_ALG -- add sign/verify API Stephan Mueller
2015-10-18 10:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] crypto: AF_ALG -- add setpubkey setsockopt call Stephan Mueller
     [not found]   ` <1500043.fUe7nt4IEH-Veo+UhszpQh6vwJ5+F2VIg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-30  8:16     ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-10-30  8:16       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-10-30  8:42       ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-18 10:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] crypto: AF_ALG -- add asymmetric cipher interface Stephan Mueller
2015-10-18 10:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] crypto: algif_akcipher - enable compilation Stephan Mueller
     [not found] ` <1831785.BBs8Hj3CxY-Veo+UhszpQh6vwJ5+F2VIg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-19  1:32   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] crypto: add algif_akcipher user space API Herbert Xu
2015-10-19  1:32     ` Herbert Xu
2015-10-19  7:14     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-19  7:27       ` Herbert Xu
2015-10-27  4:54 ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]   ` <BDD3AC1F-26D5-41D2-863B-CF8C7BF5FFEE-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  9:12     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-27  9:12       ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]       ` <1979544.kURdYDnObN-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  9:19         ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-27  9:19           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]           ` <1445937541.3405.75.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27 10:50             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-27 10:50               ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-27 23:15               ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-27 23:35                 ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                   ` <1499937.MpmApGzYrd-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27 23:43                     ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-27 23:43                       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                       ` <1445989396.3405.131.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27 23:47                         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-27 23:47                           ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-28  0:37                           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                             ` <1445992622.3405.148.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28  1:18                               ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-28  1:18                                 ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                                 ` <2035809.AHCPW286O9-Veo+UhszpQh6vwJ5+F2VIg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28  1:36                                   ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28  1:36                                     ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28  0:46                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-10-28  1:29                             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-28  2:56                               ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                                 ` <F0D283A6-37C8-47EC-9DE0-998B8A59F138-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28 10:12                                   ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2015-10-28 10:12                                     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-10-27 15:16     ` Tadeusz Struk
2015-10-27 15:16       ` Tadeusz Struk
2015-12-14 18:06     ` Tadeusz Struk
2015-12-14 18:06       ` Tadeusz Struk

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