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From: Marek Lindner <mareklindner@neomailbox.ch>
To: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] Better throughput estimation on half duplex interfaces
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2023 23:06:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3744588.QkHrqEjB74@rousseau> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRXRFFATYjEvIeVb@pilgrim>

On Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:16:36 CEST Remi Pommarel wrote:
> > > $ batctl o
> > > Originator     last-seen ( throughput)  Nexthop         [outgoingIF]
> > > * Orig0-Main-Mac   0.220s  (        110)  Orig1-mesh0-Mac [  mesh0 ]
> > > Orig0-Main-Mac   0.220s  (        100)  Orig1-mesh0-Mac [  mesh0 ]
> > > 
> > > So best path for Orig2 to Orig0 would go through Orig1 with an expected
> > > throughput of 110Mbps. But such a throughput cannot be reached because
> > > Orig1 has to forward packet from and to the same WiFi interface.
> > 
> > Correct. Looking at your example where is the problem with the store &
> > forward penalty?
> 
> The problem is that the wrong path is selected.
> 
> The best one should be the direct one. Because going through Orig1, 110Mbps
> would never be bereached due to the store & forward penalty on Orig1 and
> the real throughput will be below the direct path (around 80Mbps).

To summarize the problem you see: A path traversing a half duplex node might 
not be penalized enough when the weaker throughput link lies before a stronger 
throughput link because the half duplex penalty is not be applied before the 
packet is forwarded.

The underlying assumption is that this indeed is an issue in terms of 
(measurable) throughput. Are there any numbers / papers / experiments you are 
basing this on? Is the store & forward throughput limit determined by the 
throughput of the weakest link?

Cheers,
Marek




  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-03 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-28 12:39 [PATCH RFC 0/2] Better throughput estimation on half duplex interfaces Remi Pommarel
2023-09-28 12:39 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] batman-adv: Keep half duplex penalty on OGM receiving side also Remi Pommarel
2023-09-28 12:39 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] batman-adv: Better half duplex penalty estimation Remi Pommarel
2023-10-14  5:10   ` Linus Lüssing
2023-10-14  6:03     ` Linus Lüssing
2023-10-18 19:58     ` Remi Pommarel
2023-10-18 21:37       ` Nicolas Escande
2023-10-14  6:24   ` Linus Lüssing
2023-09-28 15:33 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Better throughput estimation on half duplex interfaces Marek Lindner
2023-09-28 16:48   ` Remi Pommarel
2023-09-28 17:54     ` Remi Pommarel
2023-09-28 18:10     ` Marek Lindner
2023-09-28 19:16       ` Remi Pommarel
2023-10-03 21:06         ` Marek Lindner [this message]
2023-10-11  8:55           ` Remi Pommarel

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