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From: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Steven Pratt <slpratt@austin.ibm.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] readahead: on-demand readahead logic
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:02:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <379579717.08762@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20070519130202.GB6095@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070518232335.8a4c8247.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:23:35PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> That would have to be the best changelog I've ever seen ;) Thanks for
> persisting with this.

Thank you :)

> > sysbench oltp (trans/sec): up to 8% gain
> 
> Have you given any thought to identifying workloads which may be worsened
> by your changes?  Attempt to deliberately expose any weak spots?

Yeah. All possible downsides I can imagine are:

- CPU overheads
  Only random reads will be hurt.
  That's 1% slow down for _sparse files_, and should be much smaller
  when real I/O is involved.

- Behavior changes
  It do not enforce strict check sequentialness.
  - it is in general a good behavior for interleaved reads and
    clustered-and-intermixed-random/sequential workloads.
  - it might lead to more readahead misses
    E.g. a random read sequence of 0,1,4,12,28,60,92,124,156,188,220
    that is weird enough to start the readahead and hit all the
    lookahead pages.
    I highly doubt the possibility of such patterns happen in real
    world. But if ever it happens repeatedly for some user, he can
    work it around easily by tuning readahead_kb to some other value.

So, it is only a possibility that some random workload may be
worsened. But it's really hard to find one real world example.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-19 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-16 22:47 [PATCH 0/9] on-demand readahead Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 1/9] readahead: introduce PG_readahead Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19  6:28     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-19 11:35       ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-19 15:19         ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-19 12:30       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19 12:30         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19 15:25           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-20  3:09             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-20  3:09               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-20  7:10                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:04   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12  2:52     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-12  2:52       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 2/9] readahead: add look-ahead support to __do_page_cache_readahead() Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 3/9] readahead: MIN_RA_PAGES/MAX_RA_PAGES macros Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 4/9] readahead: data structure and routines Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-12  3:30   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12 12:07     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-12 12:07       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  0:27       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-13  3:07         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  3:07           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 5/9] readahead: on-demand readahead logic Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19  6:23     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-19 13:02       ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
2007-05-19 13:02         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-12  4:36   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12 10:35     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-12 10:35       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  1:40       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-13  4:00         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  4:00           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  5:51           ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-13  7:07             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-13  7:07               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 6/9] readahead: convert filemap invocations Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [PATCH 7/9] readahead: convert splice invocations Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:47   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:48 ` [PATCH 8/9] readahead: convert ext3/ext4 invocations Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:48   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19 12:19   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-16 22:48 ` [PATCH 9/9] readahead: remove the old algorithm Fengguang Wu
2007-05-16 22:48   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19 12:18   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-19 13:17     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-05-19 13:17       ` Fengguang Wu

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