[parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[AJIT D BOBRA]

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Hi,

	Greetings  !!

	We have three Hp 9000/735 machines running HP-UX 9.01. We are now
interested in loading LINUX on them and scrap HP-UX. What are the
chances that we can do that ?



	If we can, then Could you pl guide us step by step procedure to do that
change. We have been using LINUX on PC's.





regards.

bye




ajit bobra

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Ajit D. Bobra
Astronomy & Astrophysics Division
Physical Research Laboratory
Navrangpura
Ahmedabad  380 009
INDIA

e-mail	:	bobra@prl.ernet.in
HomePage:	http://www.prl.ernet.in/~bobra

Phone	:	Off ::(91 79)  6302 129
     	:	Res ::(91 79)  6852 334
		
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:41:59PM +0530, AJIT D BOBRA wrote:
> 	We have three Hp 9000/735 machines running HP-UX 9.01. We are now
> interested in loading LINUX on them and scrap HP-UX. What are the
> chances that we can do that ?

depends what you want to do really.  you stand a significantly better
chance of being able to do that if all you want is to watch the machine
crash :-)

we have no intention of providing an X server (anyone want to start
working on that...?), but you should be able to try the alpha release
for the 712 on a 735 and gasp in amazement as you manage to execute
simple shell commands.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[Steven Pritchard]

Matthew Wilcox said:
> we have no intention of providing an X server (anyone want to start
> working on that...?)

What are the odds that the stock X11 Xhp would just work (or could be
made to just work)?

Steve
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[Mike Hibler]

> From: Steven Pritchard <steve@silug.org>
> Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....
> To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
> 
> Matthew Wilcox said:
> > we have no intention of providing an X server (anyone want to start
> > working on that...?)
> 
> What are the odds that the stock X11 Xhp would just work (or could be
> made to just work)?
> 

Odds should be quite good.  The HP-UX compatibility code that is in the
Mach port was sufficient to run the HP Xserver of that era (circa HP-UX 9.x).
Working on HP-UX compatibility mode would seem like a much better use of
time than trying to write an Xserver for N different HP video cards.

OTOH, if HP is as committed to Linux as they appear to be, then maybe their
X11 group will just port their server to PA Linux and make it available!

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[Brian S. Julin]

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Steven Pritchard wrote:
> What are the odds that the stock X11 Xhp would just work (or could be
> made to just work)?

Does that use the ROM X11 driver included in graphics devices,
or is it a to-the-metal implementation.  If the latter, is the
source code open?

--
Brian

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 9000/735 systems....

[Grant Grundler]

Mike Hibler wrote:
> Odds should be quite good.  The HP-UX compatibility code that is in the
> Mach port was sufficient to run the HP Xserver of that era (circa HP-UX 9.x).
> Working on HP-UX compatibility mode would seem like a much better use of
> time than trying to write an Xserver for N different HP video cards.

This sounds like a good plan to follow. Who can do this or who can
"borrow" code from the Mach to make this work?

I'm pretty sure this is the quickest/easiest way to get something
working since I've seen it working already.

> OTOH, if HP is as committed to Linux as they appear to be, then maybe their
> X11 group will just port their server to PA Linux and make it available!

I wouldn't count on it. They might. But generally, supporting parisc-linux
is not the same priority as IA64-linux. And despite pretty deep pockets,
HP does not have infinite resources to do everything.

grant

Grant Grundler
Unix Systems Enablement Lab
+1.408.447.7253

Re: LINUX SUPPORT for HP 9000/735 systems....

[AJIT D BOBRA]

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Hi,
	Greetings  !!

	I had sent you this mail. You might have sent in, your reply but since
there was a computer crash, I have not received.

	In case you had sent in your reply, kindly sent it again.

	In case you have not, pl send me your reply asap.


regards.


ajit bobra





AJIT D BOBRA wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>         Greetings  !!
> 
>         We have three Hp 9000/735 machines running HP-UX 9.01. We are now
> interested in loading LINUX on them and scrap HP-UX. What are the
> chances that we can do that ?
> 
>         If we can, then Could you pl guide us step by step procedure to do that
> change. We have been using LINUX on PC's.
> 
> regards.
> 
> bye
> 
> ajit bobra
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> **********************************
> 
> Ajit D. Bobra
> Astronomy & Astrophysics Division
> Physical Research Laboratory
> Navrangpura
> Ahmedabad  380 009
> INDIA
> 
> e-mail  :       bobra@prl.ernet.in
> HomePage:       http://www.prl.ernet.in/~bobra
> 
> Phone   :       Off ::(91 79)  6302 129
>         :       Res ::(91 79)  6852 334
> 
> Fax     :           ::(91 79)  6301 502
> 
> **********************************

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Ajit D. Bobra
Astronomy & Astrophysics Division
Physical Research Laboratory
Navrangpura
Ahmedabad  380 009
INDIA

e-mail	:	bobra@prl.ernet.in
HomePage:	http://www.prl.ernet.in/~bobra

Phone	:	Off ::(91 79)  6302 129
     	:	Res ::(91 79)  6852 334
		
Fax	:	    ::(91 79)  6301 502


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Re: LINUX SUPPORT for HP 9000/735 systems....

[Matthew Wilcox]

see
http://puffin.external.hp.com/mailing-lists/parisc-linux/2000/08-Aug/0058.html
for your original message and followups.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

Re: LINUX SUPPORT for HP 9000/735 systems....

[herrold]

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> see
> http://puffin.external.hp.com/mailing-lists/parisc-linux/2000/08-Aug/0058.html
> for your original message and followups.

... A more direct reply might by:

 -- Text User Interface mode should work directly.
 -- X is a bit dicey, and you are invited to tinker and contribute
to the pool.
 -- If there are other aspects which you are interested in, feel
free to ask.

------------

  Matthew, is this a fair summary? -- I was thinking of cutting over
a 735 myself.  I'll keep notes on the conversion, and probably post
a HowTo if this is the case. /// I'll summarize ...

-- Russ Herrold