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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: MPK: removing a pkey
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:09:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39ea6607-a013-bd18-b478-3f44fb17caa4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28f6e430-293d-4b30-dce6-018a2b3c03e8@redhat.com>

On 11/23/2017 04:38 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 05:32 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 11/22/2017 08:21 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2017 05:10 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/2017 04:15 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>>>> On 11/22/2017 09:18 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>>> And, was the pkey == -1 internal wiring supposed to be exposed to the
>>>>>> pkey_mprotect() signal, or should there have been a pre-check
>>>>>> returning
>>>>>> EINVAL in SYSCALL_DEFINE4(pkey_mprotect), before calling
>>>>>> do_mprotect_pkey())? I assume it's too late to change it now
>>>>>> anyway (or
>>>>>> not?), so should we also document it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the -1 case to the set the default key is useful because it
>>>>> allows you to use a key value of -1 to mean “MPK is not supported”,
>>>>> and
>>>>> still call pkey_mprotect.
>>>>
>>>> The behavior to not allow 0 to be set was unintentional and is a bug.
>>>> We should fix that.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, x86-64 has no single default protection key due to
>>> the PROT_EXEC emulation.
>>
>> No, the default is clearly 0 and documented to be so.  The PROT_EXEC
>> emulation one should be inaccessible in all the APIs so does not even
>> show up as *being* a key in the API.

I should have been more explicit: the EXEC pkey does not show up in the
syscall API.

> I see key 1 in /proc for a PROT_EXEC mapping.  If I supply an explicit
> protection key, that key is used, and the page ends up having read
> access enabled.
> 
> The key is also visible in the siginfo_t argument on read access to a
> PROT_EXEC mapping with the default key, so it's not just /proc:
> 
> page 1 (0x7f008242d000): read access denied
>   SIGSEGV address: 0x7f008242d000
>   SIGSEGV code: 4
>   SIGSEGV key: 1
> 
> I'm attaching my test.

Yes, it is exposed there.  But, as a non-allocated pkey, the intention
in the kernel was to make sure that it could not be passed to the syscalls.

If that behavior is broken, we should probably fix it.

>> The fact that it's implemented
>> with pkeys should be pretty immaterial other than the fact that you
>> can't touch the high bits in PKRU.
> 
> I don't see a restriction for PKRU updates.  If I write zero to the PKRU
> register, PROT_EXEC implies PROT_READ, as I would expect.

I'll rephrase:
	
	The fact that it's implemented with pkeys should be pretty
	immaterial other than the fact that you must not touch the bits
	controlling PROT_EXEC in PKRU if you want to keep it working.

There is no restriction which is *enforced*.  It's just documented.

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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: MPK: removing a pkey
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:09:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39ea6607-a013-bd18-b478-3f44fb17caa4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28f6e430-293d-4b30-dce6-018a2b3c03e8@redhat.com>

On 11/23/2017 04:38 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 05:32 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 11/22/2017 08:21 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2017 05:10 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/2017 04:15 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>>>> On 11/22/2017 09:18 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>>> And, was the pkey == -1 internal wiring supposed to be exposed to the
>>>>>> pkey_mprotect() signal, or should there have been a pre-check
>>>>>> returning
>>>>>> EINVAL in SYSCALL_DEFINE4(pkey_mprotect), before calling
>>>>>> do_mprotect_pkey())? I assume it's too late to change it now
>>>>>> anyway (or
>>>>>> not?), so should we also document it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the -1 case to the set the default key is useful because it
>>>>> allows you to use a key value of -1 to mean a??MPK is not supporteda??,
>>>>> and
>>>>> still call pkey_mprotect.
>>>>
>>>> The behavior to not allow 0 to be set was unintentional and is a bug.
>>>> We should fix that.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, x86-64 has no single default protection key due to
>>> the PROT_EXEC emulation.
>>
>> No, the default is clearly 0 and documented to be so.A  The PROT_EXEC
>> emulation one should be inaccessible in all the APIs so does not even
>> show up as *being* a key in the API.

I should have been more explicit: the EXEC pkey does not show up in the
syscall API.

> I see key 1 in /proc for a PROT_EXEC mapping.A  If I supply an explicit
> protection key, that key is used, and the page ends up having read
> access enabled.
> 
> The key is also visible in the siginfo_t argument on read access to a
> PROT_EXEC mapping with the default key, so it's not just /proc:
> 
> page 1 (0x7f008242d000): read access denied
> A  SIGSEGV address: 0x7f008242d000
> A  SIGSEGV code: 4
> A  SIGSEGV key: 1
> 
> I'm attaching my test.

Yes, it is exposed there.  But, as a non-allocated pkey, the intention
in the kernel was to make sure that it could not be passed to the syscalls.

If that behavior is broken, we should probably fix it.

>> The fact that it's implemented
>> with pkeys should be pretty immaterial other than the fact that you
>> can't touch the high bits in PKRU.
> 
> I don't see a restriction for PKRU updates.A  If I write zero to the PKRU
> register, PROT_EXEC implies PROT_READ, as I would expect.

I'll rephrase:
	
	The fact that it's implemented with pkeys should be pretty
	immaterial other than the fact that you must not touch the bits
	controlling PROT_EXEC in PKRU if you want to keep it working.

There is no restriction which is *enforced*.  It's just documented.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-23 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-05 10:35 MPK: pkey_free and key reuse Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 10:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 10:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-08 20:41 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-08 20:41   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 14:48   ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-09 14:48     ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-09 14:48     ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-09 16:59     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 16:59       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 16:59       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 12:48       ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 12:48         ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 13:07         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 13:07           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 15:25         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 15:25           ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-24 14:55           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24 14:55             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found] ` <0f006ef4-a7b5-c0cf-5f58-d0fd1f911a54-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22  8:18   ` MPK: removing a pkey (was: pkey_free and key reuse) Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22  8:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22  8:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 12:15     ` MPK: removing a pkey Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:15       ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:15       ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:46       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 12:46         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 12:46         ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]         ` <f0495f01-9821-ec36-56b4-333f109eb761-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 12:49           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:49             ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:49             ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 16:10       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:10         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:21         ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 16:21           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 16:21           ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]           ` <9ec19ff3-86f6-7cfe-1a07-1ab1c5d9882c-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 16:32             ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:32               ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:32               ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23  8:11               ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23  8:11                 ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]                 ` <de93997a-7802-96cf-62e2-e59416e745ca-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 15:00                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 15:00                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 15:00                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 21:42                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 21:42                       ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]                       ` <2d12777f-615a-8101-2156-cf861ec13aa7-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:29                         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 23:29                           ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 23:29                           ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-24  8:35                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24  8:35                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24  8:38                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-24  8:38                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 12:38               ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 12:38                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 15:09                 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2017-11-23 15:09                   ` Dave Hansen

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