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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>
To: timw@splhi.com
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Werner Almesberger <Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:23:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A887E68.CFBF6FC5@transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A887777.3895D3F8@transmeta.com> <E14ST3g-000094-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010212161753.B4280@kochanski.internal.splhi.com>

Tim Wright wrote:
> 
> Yup,
> those who fail to learn from TCP are doomed to re-invent it, badly, at the
> wrong level <GRIN>.
> Seriously, the console subsystem on the Sequent (now IBM) NUMA-Q systems
> originally used UDP. It wound up as a serious mess. We changed to TCP.
> I'll admit that the NUMA-Q console subsystem does more than what is being
> proposed here currently, but it's likely to grow.
> In general UDP is only appropriate if you *can* afford to drop data.
> Did RDP ever get anywhere ?
> 

That's the whole crux of the matter.  For something like this, you *will*
drop data under certain circumstances.  I suspect it's better to have
this done in a controlled manner, rather than stop completely, which is
what TCP would do.

	-hpa

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-13  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-12 15:45 LILO and serial speeds over 9600 Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 16:53 ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 18:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 20:39     ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:55         ` James Sutherland
2001-02-14 11:45           ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-12 21:52       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 22:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:25           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:11             ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-12 23:16               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:27                   ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:53                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:11                       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13  0:17                         ` Tim Wright
2001-02-13  0:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-02-13 10:51                             ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13 10:57                               ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13 12:55                                 ` Russell King
2001-02-13 13:56                                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:35                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 23:51                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:24                       ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:27                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:19             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:23               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 11:53               ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-17 17:26                 ` Patrick Michael Kane
2001-02-17 17:40                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-21  3:11                     ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-21  9:29                       ` Network console project Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-02-22 21:52                       ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) Pavel Machek
2001-02-23 15:54                         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-02-12 22:46         ` LILO and serial speeds over 9600 James Sutherland
2001-02-12 22:50           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 18:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 19:49     ` Scott Laird
2001-02-12 23:17       ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 23:30         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-02-12 23:39         ` David Weinehall
2001-02-13  2:52         ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102131506230.30955-100000@lefty.dyndns.org>
2001-02-13  6:12 ` H. Peter Anvin

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