From: David Balazic <david.balazic@uni-mb.si>
To: torvalds@transmeta.com
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: scsi vs ide performance on fsync's
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:42:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AA53DC0.C6E2F308@uni-mb.si> (raw)
Linus Torvalds himself wrote :
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > > > I don't know if there is any way to turn of a write buffer on an IDE disk.
> > > You want a forced set of commands to kill caching at init?
> >
> > Wrong model
> >
> > You want a write barrier. Write buffering (at least for short intervals) in
> > the drive is very sensible. The kernel needs to able to send drivers a write
> > barrier which will not be completed with outstanding commands before the
> > barrier.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Write buffering is incredibly useful on a disk - for all the same reasons
> that an OS wants to do it. The disk can use write buffering to speed up
> writes a lot - not just lower the _perceived_ latency by the OS, but to
> actually improve performance too.
>
> But Alan is right - we needs a "sync" command or something. I don't know
> if IDE has one (it already might, for all I know).
ATA , SCSI and ATAPI all have a FLUSH_CACHE command. (*)
Whether the drives implement it is another question ...
(*) references :
ATA-6 draft standard from www.t13.org
MtFuji document from ????????
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David Balazic
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2001-03-06 19:42 David Balazic [this message]
2001-03-06 20:37 ` scsi vs ide performance on fsync's Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 13:51 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:12 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 15:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 18:51 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 19:10 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:15 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 20:56 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:59 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-08 15:45 ` Chris Mason
[not found] <1epyyz1.etswlv1kmicnqM%smurf@noris.de>
2001-03-09 6:59 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-03-09 11:51 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-09 14:26 ` Matthias Urlichs
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-07 12:47 David Balazic
2001-03-06 17:14 David Balazic
2001-03-06 17:46 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-03-06 18:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 23:27 ` Mark Hahn
2001-03-06 5:27 Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-06 5:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06 7:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 12:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-06 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-07 13:48 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:13 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-12 18:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 13:50 ` Mike Black
2001-03-06 16:02 ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:27 ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-08 11:06 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-06 16:57 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 6:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 13:03 ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:15 ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:45 ` Jonathan Morton
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0103021033190.6176-200000@srv2.ecropolis.com>
[not found] ` <054201c0a33d$55ee5870$e1de11cc@csihq.com>
2001-03-04 20:10 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-04 21:28 ` Ishikawa
2001-03-06 0:11 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-02 17:42 Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 18:39 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:17 ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:25 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:27 ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 19:38 ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:41 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-05 13:23 ` Andi Kleen
2001-03-02 19:25 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-03 1:55 ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-02 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06 2:13 ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-06 2:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06 3:30 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 4:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06 7:03 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 8:24 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 12:22 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-06 14:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07 16:50 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-06 19:41 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-07 5:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07 6:58 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-09 11:39 ` Jonathan Morton
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