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* [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
@ 2001-11-19  4:57 Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-19  6:02 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-19  4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: list LVM

Hi,

After a reboot I have lost a volume (/dev/lvm1) but not an other (/dev/lvm2)
(vgscan doesn't see lvm1 !)

I am trying to restore it, using vgcfgrestore, but I have the message below :

# vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/lvm1
vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
        [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
        [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
        [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]

# vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/lvmOLD
vgcfgrestore -- invalid physical volume "/dev/lvmOLD"
vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
        [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
        [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
        [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]

WHY this message !
What do I do ?

# lvmdiskscan
lvmdiskscan -- reading all disks / partitions (this may take a while...)
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda1 [      70.57 MB] Primary  LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda2 [      19.07 GB] DOS extended partition [0x05]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda5 [       2.01 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda6 [       1.00 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda7 [       1.00 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda8 [     517.69 MB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda9 [      14.55 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdc1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdd1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hde1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdf1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdg1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdh1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
lvmdiskscan -- 7 disks
lvmdiskscan -- 0 whole disks
lvmdiskscan -- 0 loop devices
lvmdiskscan -- 0 multiple devices
lvmdiskscan -- 0 network block devices
lvmdiskscan -- 13 partitions
lvmdiskscan -- 6 LVM physical volume partitions

# vgdisplay
--- Volume group ---
VG Name               lvm2
VG Access             read/write
VG Status             available/resizable
VG #                  0
MAX LV                255
Cur LV                1
Open LV               1
MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
Max PV                255
Cur PV                3
Act PV                3
VG Size               171.79 GB
PE Size               4.00 MB
Total PE              43977
Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
VG UUID               Jp3gDv-ib7D-p5te-FFLZ-lNjI-5brK-fzjEM6
 
# vgdisplay lvm1
vgdisplay -- volume group "lvm1" not found


Thanks for your help.

-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  4:57 [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error ! Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-19  6:02 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-19  6:12   ` Igor Dumaire
                     ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J . Mauelshagen @ 2001-11-19  6:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

Igor,

you need to figure out, which Physical Volumes (PVs) belong to your VG lvm1
by running 'vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1'. Please check for the PV list at
the end of the output.

Then restore the LVM metadata by running 'vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdWhatever`
on every of those.
Afterwards run 'vgscan;vgchange -ay lvm1', which should revive lvm1.

What error happend in the first place causing lvm1 to disapear?
Do you use recent LVM software?

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --


On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:58:38AM +0100, Igor Dumaire wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After a reboot I have lost a volume (/dev/lvm1) but not an other (/dev/lvm2)
> (vgscan doesn't see lvm1 !)
> 
> I am trying to restore it, using vgcfgrestore, but I have the message below :
> 
> # vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/lvm1
> vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
> vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
>         [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
>         [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
>         [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
> 
> # vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/lvmOLD
> vgcfgrestore -- invalid physical volume "/dev/lvmOLD"
> vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
>         [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
>         [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
>         [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
> 
> WHY this message !
> What do I do ?
> 
> # lvmdiskscan
> lvmdiskscan -- reading all disks / partitions (this may take a while...)
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda1 [      70.57 MB] Primary  LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda2 [      19.07 GB] DOS extended partition [0x05]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda5 [       2.01 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda6 [       1.00 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda7 [       1.00 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda8 [     517.69 MB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hda9 [      14.55 GB] Extended LINUX native partition [0x83]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdc1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdd1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hde1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdf1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdg1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- /dev/hdh1 [      57.27 GB] Primary  LVM partition [0x8E]
> lvmdiskscan -- 7 disks
> lvmdiskscan -- 0 whole disks
> lvmdiskscan -- 0 loop devices
> lvmdiskscan -- 0 multiple devices
> lvmdiskscan -- 0 network block devices
> lvmdiskscan -- 13 partitions
> lvmdiskscan -- 6 LVM physical volume partitions
> 
> # vgdisplay
> --- Volume group ---
> VG Name               lvm2
> VG Access             read/write
> VG Status             available/resizable
> VG #                  0
> MAX LV                255
> Cur LV                1
> Open LV               1
> MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
> Max PV                255
> Cur PV                3
> Act PV                3
> VG Size               171.79 GB
> PE Size               4.00 MB
> Total PE              43977
> Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
> Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
> VG UUID               Jp3gDv-ib7D-p5te-FFLZ-lNjI-5brK-fzjEM6
>  
> # vgdisplay lvm1
> vgdisplay -- volume group "lvm1" not found
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -- 
> Igor Dumaire
> 
> www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> linux-lvm mailing list
> linux-lvm@sistina.com
> http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm
> read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  6:02 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
@ 2001-11-19  6:12   ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-19  6:17   ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-20 12:40   ` Sébastien Riccio
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-19  6:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

> you need to figure out, which Physical Volumes (PVs) belong to your VG lvm1
> by running 'vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1'. Please check for the PV list at
> the end of the output.
> 

the PV list it' OK. (hde1, hdf1 and hdc1)

# vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1
--- Volume group ---
VG Name               lvm1
VG Access             read/write
VG Status             NOT available/resizable
VG #                  0
MAX LV                255
Cur LV                1
Open LV               0
MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
Max PV                255
Cur PV                3
Act PV                3
VG Size               171.79 GB
PE Size               4.00 MB
Total PE              43977
Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
VG UUID               iwDjRO-WlFd-GZUw-DU20-GP8C-mMwV-MkzCeR

--- Logical volume ---
LV Name                /dev/lvm1/Data
VG Name                lvm1
LV Write Access        read/write
LV Status              available
LV #                   1
# open                 0
LV Size                171.00 GB
Current LE             43776
Allocated LE           43776
Allocation             next free
Read ahead sectors     120
Block device           58:0


--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hde1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   1
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               kbvz5r-hJlN-WU9Q-7xwj-alJ6-8UfO-jopMFc
 
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdf1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   2
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               weQY7t-7II0-7t74-hVI5-Dj8Y-CV0O-8CyGqh
 
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdc1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   3
PV Status             available
Allocatable           yes
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               201
Allocated PE          14458
PV UUID               BFvA7F-ccvF-e5r1-3QH7-02JG-dH4r-AOYF64

> What error happend in the first place causing lvm1 to disapear?
I don't known.

> Do you use recent LVM software?
LVM version 1.0.1-rc4(03/10/2001) 
vgcreate: Logical Volume Manager 1.0.1-rc4
Heinz Mauelshagen, Sistina Software  03/10/2001 (IOP 10)

Regards,

-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  6:02 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-19  6:12   ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-19  6:17   ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-19  8:23     ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-20 12:40   ` Sébastien Riccio
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-19  6:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

> you need to figure out, which Physical Volumes (PVs) belong to your VG lvm1
> by running 'vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1'. Please check for the PV list at
> the end of the output.


> Then restore the LVM metadata by running 'vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdWhatever`
> on every of those.
# vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hde1
vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
        [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
        [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
        [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
# vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdf1
vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
        [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
        [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
        [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
# vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdc1
vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
        [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
        [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
        [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]


What's about "PV Status             NOT available" in vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1
message ?!

--- Volume group ---
VG Name               lvm1
VG Access             read/write
VG Status             NOT available/resizable
VG #                  0
MAX LV                255
Cur LV                1
Open LV               0
MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
Max PV                255
Cur PV                3
Act PV                3
VG Size               171.79 GB
PE Size               4.00 MB
Total PE              43977
Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
VG UUID               iwDjRO-WlFd-GZUw-DU20-GP8C-mMwV-MkzCeR

--- Logical volume ---
LV Name                /dev/lvm1/Data
VG Name                lvm1
LV Write Access        read/write
LV Status              available
LV #                   1
# open                 0
LV Size                171.00 GB
Current LE             43776
Allocated LE           43776
Allocation             next free
Read ahead sectors     120
Block device           58:0


--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hde1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   1
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               kbvz5r-hJlN-WU9Q-7xwj-alJ6-8UfO-jopMFc
 
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdf1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   2
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               weQY7t-7II0-7t74-hVI5-Dj8Y-CV0O-8CyGqh
 
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdc1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   3
PV Status             available
Allocatable           yes
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               201
Allocated PE          14458
PV UUID               BFvA7F-ccvF-e5r1-3QH7-02JG-dH4r-AOYF64


-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  6:17   ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-19  8:23     ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-19  9:21       ` Igor Dumaire
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J . Mauelshagen @ 2001-11-19  8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

Igor,

I overlooked the 'active VG' message vgcfgrestore is displaying.
Because 'vgchange -an lvm1' wont't work in your situation I am afraid you need
to reboot before being able to run vgcfgrestore successfully.

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --


On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:19:11PM +0100, Igor Dumaire wrote:
> > you need to figure out, which Physical Volumes (PVs) belong to your VG lvm1
> > by running 'vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1'. Please check for the PV list at
> > the end of the output.
> 
> 
> > Then restore the LVM metadata by running 'vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdWhatever`
> > on every of those.
> # vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hde1
> vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
> vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
>         [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
>         [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
>         [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
> # vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdf1
> vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
> vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
>         [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
>         [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
>         [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
> # vgcfgrestore -n lvm1 /dev/hdc1
> vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"
> vgcfgrestore [-d|--debug] [-f|--file VGConfPath] [-l[l]|--list [--list]]
>         [-n|--name VolumeGroupName] [-h|--help]
>         [-o|--oldpath OldPhysicalVolumePath] [-t|--test] [-v|--verbose]
>         [--version] [PhysicalVolumePath]
> 
> 
> What's about "PV Status             NOT available" in vgcfgrestore -ll -n lvm1
> message ?!
> 
> --- Volume group ---
> VG Name               lvm1
> VG Access             read/write
> VG Status             NOT available/resizable
> VG #                  0
> MAX LV                255
> Cur LV                1
> Open LV               0
> MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
> Max PV                255
> Cur PV                3
> Act PV                3
> VG Size               171.79 GB
> PE Size               4.00 MB
> Total PE              43977
> Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
> Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
> VG UUID               iwDjRO-WlFd-GZUw-DU20-GP8C-mMwV-MkzCeR
> 
> --- Logical volume ---
> LV Name                /dev/lvm1/Data
> VG Name                lvm1
> LV Write Access        read/write
> LV Status              available
> LV #                   1
> # open                 0
> LV Size                171.00 GB
> Current LE             43776
> Allocated LE           43776
> Allocation             next free
> Read ahead sectors     120
> Block device           58:0
> 
> 
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hde1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   1
> PV Status             NOT available
> Allocatable           yes (but full)
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               0
> Allocated PE          14659
> PV UUID               kbvz5r-hJlN-WU9Q-7xwj-alJ6-8UfO-jopMFc
>  
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hdf1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   2
> PV Status             NOT available
> Allocatable           yes (but full)
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               0
> Allocated PE          14659
> PV UUID               weQY7t-7II0-7t74-hVI5-Dj8Y-CV0O-8CyGqh
>  
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hdc1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   3
> PV Status             available
> Allocatable           yes
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               201
> Allocated PE          14458
> PV UUID               BFvA7F-ccvF-e5r1-3QH7-02JG-dH4r-AOYF64
> 
> 
> -- 
> Igor Dumaire
> 
> www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> linux-lvm mailing list
> linux-lvm@sistina.com
> http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm
> read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  8:23     ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
@ 2001-11-19  9:21       ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-20  5:25         ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-19  9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

> 
> I overlooked the 'active VG' message vgcfgrestore is displaying.
> Because 'vgchange -an lvm1' wont't work in your situation I am afraid you need
> to reboot before being able to run vgcfgrestore successfully.
> 
After the reboot vgcfgrestore doesn't work !

# vgchange -an lvm1
vgchange -- volume group "lvm1" does not exist

# vgcfgrestore  -n lvm1  /dev/hde1
vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"

What do I do ?

Regards,
-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  9:21       ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-20  5:25         ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-20  5:40           ` Igor Dumaire
                             ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J . Mauelshagen @ 2001-11-20  5:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:22:43PM +0100, Igor Dumaire wrote:
> > 
> > I overlooked the 'active VG' message vgcfgrestore is displaying.
> > Because 'vgchange -an lvm1' wont't work in your situation I am afraid you need
> > to reboot before being able to run vgcfgrestore successfully.
> > 
> After the reboot vgcfgrestore doesn't work !
> 
> # vgchange -an lvm1
> vgchange -- volume group "lvm1" does not exist
> 
> # vgcfgrestore  -n lvm1  /dev/hde1
> vgcfgrestore -- can't restore part of active volume group "lvm1"

Strange.
Please provide "vgdisplay -v;pvscan;lvmdiskscan" and "pvdata -PP" for all
PVs belonging to the missing VG.

Thanks,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --

> 
> What do I do ?
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Igor Dumaire
> 
> www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
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                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-20  5:25         ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
@ 2001-11-20  5:40           ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-23  7:41             ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-20 12:54           ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-20 13:24           ` Igor Dumaire
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-20  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

> Strange.
> Please provide "vgdisplay -v;pvscan;lvmdiskscan" and "pvdata -PP" for all
> PVs belonging to the missing VG.
> 
# vgdisplay -v
--- Volume group ---
VG Name               lvm2
VG Access             read/write
VG Status             available/resizable
VG #                  0
MAX LV                255
Cur LV                1
Open LV               1
MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
Max PV                255
Cur PV                3
Act PV                3
VG Size               171.79 GB
PE Size               4.00 MB
Total PE              43977
Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
VG UUID               Jp3gDv-ib7D-p5te-FFLZ-lNjI-5brK-fzjEM6

--- Logical volume ---
LV Name                /dev/lvm2/Backup
VG Name                lvm2
LV Write Access        read/write
LV Status              available
LV #                   1
# open                 1
LV Size                171.00 GB
Current LE             43776
Allocated LE           43776
Allocation             next free
Read ahead sectors     120
Block device           58:0


--- Physical volumes ---
PV Name (#)           /dev/hdd1 (3)
PV Status             available / allocatable
Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 201

PV Name (#)           /dev/hdg1 (1)
PV Status             available / allocatable
Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 0

PV Name (#)           /dev/hdh1 (2)
PV Status             available / allocatable
Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 0



# pvscan
pvscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hdc1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdd1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 804.00 MB free]
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hde1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hdf1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdg1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 0 free]
pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdh1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 0 free]
pvscan -- total: 6 [343.62 GB] / in use: 6 [343.62 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0]

# man pvdata
# pvdata -PP /dev/hde1
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hde1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   1
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               kbvz5r-hJlN-WU9Q-7xwj-alJ6-8UfO-jopMFc
pv_dev                   0:33
system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974292
pv_on_disk.base          0
pv_on_disk.size          1024
vg_on_disk.base          4096
vg_on_disk.size          4096
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
lv_on_disk.base          40960
lv_on_disk.size          83968
pe_on_disk.base          126976
pe_on_disk.size          4259840



# pvdata -PP /dev/hdf1
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdf1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   2
PV Status             NOT available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          14659
PV UUID               weQY7t-7II0-7t74-hVI5-Dj8Y-CV0O-8CyGqh
pv_dev                   0:33
system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974293
pv_on_disk.base          0
pv_on_disk.size          1024
vg_on_disk.base          4096
vg_on_disk.size          4096
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
lv_on_disk.base          40960
lv_on_disk.size          83968
pe_on_disk.base          126976
pe_on_disk.size          4259840
 
 
 
# pvdata -PP /dev/hdc1
--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdc1
VG Name               lvm1
PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
PV#                   3
PV Status             available
Allocatable           yes
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              14659
Free PE               201
Allocated PE          14458
PV UUID               BFvA7F-ccvF-e5r1-3QH7-02JG-dH4r-AOYF64
pv_dev                   0:22
system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974291
pv_on_disk.base          0
pv_on_disk.size          1024
vg_on_disk.base          4096
vg_on_disk.size          4096
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
lv_on_disk.base          40960
lv_on_disk.size          83968
pe_on_disk.base          126976
pe_on_disk.size          4259840


Thanks a lot for your help. I have lost (can't acces) a lot of data !
Best regards.

-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-19  6:02 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-19  6:12   ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-19  6:17   ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-20 12:40   ` Sébastien Riccio
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Riccio @ 2001-11-20 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

Hello !

I  got strang stuff going on with my lvm groups...

It crashed after a reboot and i also lost lvm files in /etc.

Now my group is unrecognized...

look at this : (the vg name is lithium)

the devices are /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1 /dev/hdc1 /dev/hdb1

vgimport  -f lithium /dev/hdf1
vgimport -- ERROR "pv_read_all_pv_of_vg(): PV number" reading data of volume
group "l"

vgimport  -f lithium /dev/hdh1
vgimport -- ERROR: wrong number of physical volumes to import volume group
"lithium"

It seems that volume group name that vgimport reports for /dev/hdf1 is "l"
(as you can see with the vgimport utility outpout)
and the rests of the disks report it as "lithium", which is the correct
name.

Now if try to import the vg with all the devices, it says that /dev/hdf1 is
not in the same volume group than /dev/hdg1

But if i pvdisplay hdf1 and hdg1 :

--- Physical volume ---
PV Name               /dev/hdf1
VG Name               lithium
PV Size               38.18 GB / NOT usable 1.44 MB [LVM: 159.00 KB]
PV#                   1
PV Status             available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              9773
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          9773
PV UUID               RxtFHo-8a4T-2HgW-UaRb-ECvU-tZaG-ZfKDDN


PV Name               /dev/hdg1
VG Name               lithium
PV Size               38.30 GB / NOT usable 3.99 MB [LVM: 159.00 KB]
PV#                   2
PV Status             available
Allocatable           yes (but full)
Cur LV                1
PE Size (KByte)       4096
Total PE              9803
Free PE               0
Allocated PE          9803
PV UUID               15PNMd-VnLP-XbWe-2cyU-A0Ia-xCxI-COXaMG

How is it possible that group names match with pvdisplay, but vgimport tells
me hdf1 is in group "l" ?????

Can you help ?

Thanks !

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-20  5:25         ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-20  5:40           ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-20 12:54           ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-20 13:24           ` Igor Dumaire
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-20 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

When I try :
# vgimport -v lvm1 /dev/hde1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hde1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- ERROR: physical volume "/dev/hde1" doesn't belong to an exported
volume group

Ok, I hadn't used vgexport !

# vgimport -f -v lvm1 /dev/hde1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hde1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- reallocating memory
vgimport -- checking consistency of physical volume "/dev/hde1"
Segmentation fault

why "Segmentation fault" ?


An idea ?

Thanks.


-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-20  5:25         ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  2001-11-20  5:40           ` Igor Dumaire
  2001-11-20 12:54           ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-20 13:24           ` Igor Dumaire
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Igor Dumaire @ 2001-11-20 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

#  vgimport -f -v lvm1 /dev/hdc1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hdc1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- reallocating memory
vgimport -- checking consistency of physical volume "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- ERROR: wrong number of physical volumes to import volume group
"lvm1"
I try vgimport on the three disks :
 
#  vgimport -f -v lvm1 /dev/hde1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hde1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hde1"
vgimport -- reallocating memory
vgimport -- checking consistency of physical volume "/dev/hde1"
Segmentation fault

#  vgimport -f -v lvm1 /dev/hdf1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hdf1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hdf1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hdf1"
vgimport -- reallocating memory
vgimport -- checking consistency of physical volume "/dev/hdf1"
vgimport -- ERROR: wrong number of physical volumes to import volume group
"lvm1"


#  vgimport -f -v lvm1 /dev/hdc1
vgimport -- locking logical volume manager
vgimport -- checking volume group name
vgimport -- checking volume group "lvm1" existence
vgimport -- trying to read physical volume
vgimport -- checking for duplicate physical volumes
vgimport -- checking physical volume name "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- reading data of physical volume "/dev/hdc1" from disk
vgimport -- checking for exported physical volume "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- reallocating memory
vgimport -- checking consistency of physical volume "/dev/hdc1"
vgimport -- ERROR: wrong number of physical volumes to import volume group
"lvm1"

Why ERROR? Why coredump ?!


-- 
Igor Dumaire

www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
------------------------------------------------

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* Re: [linux-lvm] vgcfgrestore error !
  2001-11-20  5:40           ` Igor Dumaire
@ 2001-11-23  7:41             ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J . Mauelshagen @ 2001-11-23  7:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm; +Cc: mge

Igor,

pvdata output looks fine.

Could you send me the metadata for further investigation in private
email, please?

You can retrieve 3 files with the metadata of your PVs by "
for d in /dev/hd[cef]1
do
   dd if=$d of=`basename $d`.lvm bs=1k count=512
done

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --


On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:41:56PM +0100, Igor Dumaire wrote:
> 
> > Strange.
> > Please provide "vgdisplay -v;pvscan;lvmdiskscan" and "pvdata -PP" for all
> > PVs belonging to the missing VG.
> > 
> # vgdisplay -v
> --- Volume group ---
> VG Name               lvm2
> VG Access             read/write
> VG Status             available/resizable
> VG #                  0
> MAX LV                255
> Cur LV                1
> Open LV               1
> MAX LV Size           255.99 GB
> Max PV                255
> Cur PV                3
> Act PV                3
> VG Size               171.79 GB
> PE Size               4.00 MB
> Total PE              43977
> Alloc PE / Size       43776 / 171.00 GB
> Free  PE / Size       201 / 804.00 MB
> VG UUID               Jp3gDv-ib7D-p5te-FFLZ-lNjI-5brK-fzjEM6
> 
> --- Logical volume ---
> LV Name                /dev/lvm2/Backup
> VG Name                lvm2
> LV Write Access        read/write
> LV Status              available
> LV #                   1
> # open                 1
> LV Size                171.00 GB
> Current LE             43776
> Allocated LE           43776
> Allocation             next free
> Read ahead sectors     120
> Block device           58:0
> 
> 
> --- Physical volumes ---
> PV Name (#)           /dev/hdd1 (3)
> PV Status             available / allocatable
> Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 201
> 
> PV Name (#)           /dev/hdg1 (1)
> PV Status             available / allocatable
> Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 0
> 
> PV Name (#)           /dev/hdh1 (2)
> PV Status             available / allocatable
> Total PE / Free PE    14659 / 0
> 
> 
> 
> # pvscan
> pvscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)
> pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hdc1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
> pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdd1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 804.00 MB free]
> pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hde1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
> pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/hdf1"  is associated to an unknown VG (run vgscan)
> pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdg1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 0 free]
> pvscan -- ACTIVE   PV "/dev/hdh1" of VG "lvm2" [57.26 GB / 0 free]
> pvscan -- total: 6 [343.62 GB] / in use: 6 [343.62 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0]
> 
> # man pvdata
> # pvdata -PP /dev/hde1
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hde1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   1
> PV Status             NOT available
> Allocatable           yes (but full)
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               0
> Allocated PE          14659
> PV UUID               kbvz5r-hJlN-WU9Q-7xwj-alJ6-8UfO-jopMFc
> pv_dev                   0:33
> system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974292
> pv_on_disk.base          0
> pv_on_disk.size          1024
> vg_on_disk.base          4096
> vg_on_disk.size          4096
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
> lv_on_disk.base          40960
> lv_on_disk.size          83968
> pe_on_disk.base          126976
> pe_on_disk.size          4259840
> 
> 
> 
> # pvdata -PP /dev/hdf1
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hdf1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   2
> PV Status             NOT available
> Allocatable           yes (but full)
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               0
> Allocated PE          14659
> PV UUID               weQY7t-7II0-7t74-hVI5-Dj8Y-CV0O-8CyGqh
> pv_dev                   0:33
> system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974293
> pv_on_disk.base          0
> pv_on_disk.size          1024
> vg_on_disk.base          4096
> vg_on_disk.size          4096
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
> lv_on_disk.base          40960
> lv_on_disk.size          83968
> pe_on_disk.base          126976
> pe_on_disk.size          4259840
>  
>  
>  
> # pvdata -PP /dev/hdc1
> --- Physical volume ---
> PV Name               /dev/hdc1
> VG Name               lvm1
> PV Size               57.27 GB / NOT usable 8.11 MB [LVM: 181.00 KB]
> PV#                   3
> PV Status             available
> Allocatable           yes
> Cur LV                1
> PE Size (KByte)       4096
> Total PE              14659
> Free PE               201
> Allocated PE          14458
> PV UUID               BFvA7F-ccvF-e5r1-3QH7-02JG-dH4r-AOYF64
> pv_dev                   0:22
> system_id                courcelles.ltutech.com1004974291
> pv_on_disk.base          0
> pv_on_disk.size          1024
> vg_on_disk.base          4096
> vg_on_disk.size          4096
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.base 8192
> pv_uuidlist_on_disk.size 32768
> lv_on_disk.base          40960
> lv_on_disk.size          83968
> pe_on_disk.base          126976
> pe_on_disk.size          4259840
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help. I have lost (can't acces) a lot of data !
> Best regards.
> 
> -- 
> Igor Dumaire
> 
> www.LTUtech.com - Making Sense of Visual Content
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> linux-lvm mailing list
> linux-lvm@sistina.com
> http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm
> read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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