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From: war <war@starband.net>
To: James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap vs No Swap.
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:00:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BFD210F.58495F37@starband.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BFC5A9B.915B77DF@starband.net> <E166rbB-0005LC-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk>

Incorrect, my point is I have enough ram where I am not going to run out for the
things I do.

Using swap simply slows the system down!


James A Sutherland wrote:

> On Thursday 22 November 2001 1:53 am, war wrote:
> > I do not understand something.
> >
> > How can having swap speed ANYTHING up?
>
> By providing ADDITIONAL storage. Yes, it's slower than RAM - but it's faster
> than not having the storage at all.
>
> > RAM = 1000MB/s.
> > DISK = 10MB/s
> >
> > Ram is generally 1000x faster than a hard disk.
> >
> > No swap = fastest possible solution.
>
> BS. You don't use swap INSTEAD of RAM, but AS WELL AS. Moving less frequently
> used data to swap allows you to put more frequently used data in RAM, which
> DOES speed things up. (At least, it does if the VM system works properly :P)
>
> By your logic, we should switch off the system RAM, too: after all, L2 cache
> is much faster again, so using RAM can only slow things down?
>
> James.
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-22 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-22  1:53 Swap vs No Swap war
2001-11-22  2:23 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-11-22  2:31   ` war
2001-11-22  2:58 ` Mark Hahn
2001-11-22  4:09 ` listmail
2001-11-22  5:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  5:30   ` war
2001-11-22  5:32     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  9:50       ` Christian Bornträger
2001-11-22  8:50 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 11:00 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:00   ` war [this message]
2001-11-22 16:08     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:57       ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 18:56         ` François Cami
2001-11-22 18:58           ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 19:17             ` François Cami
2001-11-22 19:36               ` G . Sumner Hayes
2001-11-22 20:37                 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23  6:30       ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-23  9:13         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 16:46           ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-22 16:25   ` war
2001-11-22 16:37     ` Ryan Cumming
2001-11-22 17:39     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56       ` war
     [not found] ` <01112211150302.00690@argo>
2001-11-22 16:01   ` war
2001-11-22 16:12     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:36       ` war
2001-11-22 16:33         ` Bjorn Wesen
2001-11-22 17:37         ` Thomas S. Iversen
2001-11-22 21:18           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-11-22 17:41         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56           ` war
2001-11-22 18:08             ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 22:05       ` Daniel Gryniewicz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-22 16:11 Elgar, Jeremy
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-11-22 16:29 Elgar, Jeremy
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10111221006010.29736-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-11-22 16:34 ` war
2001-11-26 20:18   ` Kent Borg

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