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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: On re-working the major/minor system
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:37:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C127A1C.2040706@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16CfsW-0001AL-00@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:

>>>That works, and should prevent most major problems.  Hmm.  At
>>>least for cpio there are 6 chars worth of device info in there,
>>>so we coule easily go to 48 bits without RPM problems.  Or redhat
>>>could fix rpm to use tarballs like debs do, and then we could go
>>>
> 
> RPM can't easily use tarballs. Too much of a tar ball isnt rigidly defined so
> you can cryptographically sign it.
> 


Why does that matter?  You're signing a *specific instance* of tar, not 
the generic format.


> 
>>>to 64 bit devices no problem.
>>>
>>The big stubling block seems to be NFSv2.
> 
> Well 2.5 isnt going to be able to support NFS without a magic daemon
> maintained translation table - so that when the kernel randomly changes the
> major/minor number of an exported file system (eg a USB reconnect or even plain
> boring shutdown/reboot) it can keep consistent file handles.
> 
> If you have a file handle table surely you can remap every NFS file handle
> through that down to 32bits. For device files the problem doesn't matter 
> because at the kernel meeting Linus said those were going to change in a way
> that meant devices over NFS are a lost cause and clients would have to use
> devfs
> 


Yeah, I know what Linus said at the kernel summit.  As far as I could 
tell he rejected anything that seemed like a sensible approach from here 
to there, but that's just my $0.02...

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-08 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-03 18:12 Linux/Pro -- clusters Donald Becker
2001-12-04  1:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04  2:09   ` Donald Becker
2001-12-04  2:23     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04  2:34       ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-04  9:10     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04  9:30       ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-04  9:45         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 11:34           ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-05 21:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-05 23:05           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06  4:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 23:49           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-05 23:48             ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 16:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:02               ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:12                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 20:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:40                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:33                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 19:19                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 20:37                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:35                           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 22:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:58                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-07 10:14                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 10:37                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 10:56                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 12:08                           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 20:51                             ` On re-working the major/minor system Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 21:21                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 21:55                                 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 22:04                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 23:07                                     ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 23:12                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-08 11:42                                         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-08 20:37                                           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-12-09 12:06                                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-09 21:57                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-11 20:45                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 18:38               ` Linux/Pro -- clusters Doug Ledford
2001-12-04 14:37     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 15:19       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 17:16         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:20           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 18:04           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:16             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 20:20               ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-05 13:11               ` Deep look into VFS Martin Dalecki
2001-12-05 15:19                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-05 15:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-08 17:55 On re-working the major/minor system Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-09 21:37 Andries.Brouwer

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