From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: On re-working the major/minor system
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:37:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C127A1C.2040706@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16CfsW-0001AL-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox wrote:
>>>That works, and should prevent most major problems. Hmm. At
>>>least for cpio there are 6 chars worth of device info in there,
>>>so we coule easily go to 48 bits without RPM problems. Or redhat
>>>could fix rpm to use tarballs like debs do, and then we could go
>>>
>
> RPM can't easily use tarballs. Too much of a tar ball isnt rigidly defined so
> you can cryptographically sign it.
>
Why does that matter? You're signing a *specific instance* of tar, not
the generic format.
>
>>>to 64 bit devices no problem.
>>>
>>The big stubling block seems to be NFSv2.
>
> Well 2.5 isnt going to be able to support NFS without a magic daemon
> maintained translation table - so that when the kernel randomly changes the
> major/minor number of an exported file system (eg a USB reconnect or even plain
> boring shutdown/reboot) it can keep consistent file handles.
>
> If you have a file handle table surely you can remap every NFS file handle
> through that down to 32bits. For device files the problem doesn't matter
> because at the kernel meeting Linus said those were going to change in a way
> that meant devices over NFS are a lost cause and clients would have to use
> devfs
>
Yeah, I know what Linus said at the kernel summit. As far as I could
tell he rejected anything that seemed like a sensible approach from here
to there, but that's just my $0.02...
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-08 20:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-03 18:12 Linux/Pro -- clusters Donald Becker
2001-12-04 1:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04 2:09 ` Donald Becker
2001-12-04 2:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04 2:34 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-04 9:10 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 9:30 ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-04 9:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 11:34 ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-05 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-05 23:05 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 4:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-05 23:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:02 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 19:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:58 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-07 10:14 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 10:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 10:56 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 12:08 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 20:51 ` On re-working the major/minor system Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 21:55 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 23:07 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 23:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-08 11:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-08 20:37 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-12-09 12:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-09 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-11 20:45 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 18:38 ` Linux/Pro -- clusters Doug Ledford
2001-12-04 14:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 15:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 17:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-05 13:11 ` Deep look into VFS Martin Dalecki
2001-12-05 15:19 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-05 15:30 ` Martin Dalecki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-08 17:55 On re-working the major/minor system Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-09 21:37 Andries.Brouwer
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