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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: On re-working the major/minor system
Date: 7 Dec 2001 13:21:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9urbtm$69e$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C10A057.BD8E1252@evision-ventures.com> <E16CJnv-0005c0-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20011207135100.A17683@codepoet.org>

Followup to:  <20011207135100.A17683@codepoet.org>
By author:    Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> Right.  Tons of apps have illicit insider knowledge of kernel
> major/minor representation and NEED IT to do their job.  Try
> running 'ls -l' on a device node.  Wow, it prints out major and
> minor number.  You can pack up a tarball containing all of /dev
> so tar has to has insider major/minor knowledge too -- as does
> the structure of every existant tarball!  Check out, for example,
> Section 10.1.1 (page 210) of the IEEE Std. 1003.1b-1993 (POSIX)
> and you will see every tarball in existance stores 8 chars for
> the major, and 8 chars for the minor....
> 

Actually, it's not "tons of apps", it's in the C library itself.

These things are defined in <sys/sysmacros.h> and anyone who uses
anything else should be taken out and shot.

	-hpa
-- 
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"Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot."
http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt	<amsp@zytor.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-07 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-03 18:12 Linux/Pro -- clusters Donald Becker
2001-12-04  1:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04  2:09   ` Donald Becker
2001-12-04  2:23     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-04  2:34       ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-04  9:10     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04  9:30       ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-04  9:45         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 11:34           ` Thomas Langås
2001-12-05 21:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-05 23:05           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06  4:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-05 23:49           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-05 23:48             ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-06 16:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:02               ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 18:12                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 20:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:40                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:33                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 18:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 19:19                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 20:37                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:35                           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 22:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-06 22:58                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-07 10:14                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 10:37                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 10:56                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-07 12:08                           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-07 20:51                             ` On re-working the major/minor system Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 21:21                               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-12-07 21:55                                 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 22:04                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-07 23:07                                     ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-07 23:12                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-08 11:42                                         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-08 20:37                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-09 12:06                                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-09 21:57                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-11 20:45                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-06 18:38               ` Linux/Pro -- clusters Doug Ledford
2001-12-04 14:37     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 15:19       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 17:16         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 17:20           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-04 18:04           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-04 18:16             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-04 20:20               ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-05 13:11               ` Deep look into VFS Martin Dalecki
2001-12-05 15:19                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-05 15:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-08 17:55 On re-working the major/minor system Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-09 21:37 Andries.Brouwer

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