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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Martin Wirth <Martin.Wirth@dlr.de>, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	haveblue <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] New locking primitive for 2.5
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:04:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C642F52.ABD14619@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202081328060.1095-100000@home.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > and regarding the reintroduction of BKL, *please* do not just use a global
> > locks around such pieces of code, lock bouncing sucks on SMP, even if
> > there is no overhead.
> 
> I'd suggest not having a lock at all, but instead add two functions: one
> to read a 64-bit value atomically, the other to write it atomically (and
> they'd be atomic only wrt each other, no memory barriers etc implied).
> 
> On 64-bit architectures that's just a direct dereference, and even on x86
> it's just a "cmpxchg8b".

Are there architectures out there that absolutely must implement this
with a spinlock?  Your suggested API of functions to read/write 64-bit
values atomically would work for such a case, but still I am just
curious.

	Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-08 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-07 15:38 [RFC] New locking primitive for 2.5 Martin Wirth
2002-02-07 18:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 18:06   ` Richard Gooch
2002-02-07 18:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-07 19:33   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 19:55   ` Mark Frazer
2002-02-08 12:24   ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-02-07 18:40 ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 19:25   ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 19:51     ` Dave Hansen
2002-02-07 20:06       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 20:11         ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 21:27     ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-07 19:59       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08  8:20     ` Nigel Gamble
2002-02-08 17:06       ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 19:58   ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:08     ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 20:15       ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:20         ` Robert Love
2002-02-07 20:36           ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:57             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:00               ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 21:10                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 20:49   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08  8:34   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08 18:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 18:12       ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-08 18:33         ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 18:54           ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08 19:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 19:21               ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 19:36                 ` Robert Love
2002-02-09  0:18                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 21:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 21:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-08 20:04                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-02-08 21:16                       ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-09  0:09                         ` Alan Cox
2002-02-09  0:05                           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-08 21:40                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-02-09 19:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07 19:56 ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 22:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-07 20:31     ` yodaiken
2002-02-07 20:57       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 21:02         ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 12:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-08 16:51       ` Nigel Gamble
2002-02-08 18:41       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08 20:47         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 18:56           ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-08 19:10               ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-08 20:14       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-02-08 20:38         ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 21:55         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-02-08 12:47   ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-02-08 15:13     ` yodaiken
2002-02-08 19:22 ` Horst von Brand

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