* TUX development? Anyone? @ 2002-02-15 13:21 Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven 2002-02-15 22:52 ` TUX development? Anyone? Ingo Molnar 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tux mailing list, linux-kernel hi all After tux2-full-2.4.17-final-A1 was released, I've submitted a few bug reports. However; noone have picked them up. Why is this? -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 13:21 TUX development? Anyone? Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven 2002-02-15 18:32 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 22:52 ` TUX development? Anyone? Ingo Molnar 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Arjan van de Ven @ 2002-02-15 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: linux-kernel Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > hi all > > After tux2-full-2.4.17-final-A1 was released, I've submitted a few bug > reports. However; noone have picked them up. > > Why is this? because they didn't include a patch in diff -u form ? And what do you mean with "picked them up"? Do you demand a fix in 24 hours? You know, that's why linux vendors sell support... for people why don't want or can't provide their own fix but do have deadlines to meet.... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven @ 2002-02-15 18:32 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 18:39 ` Rik van Riel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Arjan van de Ven; +Cc: linux-kernel > because they didn't include a patch in diff -u form ? > > And what do you mean with "picked them up"? Do you demand a fix in 24 > hours? well.. 24 days would be fine. usually documented bugs get fixed, or at _least_ someone should _try_ to see what it is -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 18:32 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 18:39 ` Rik van Riel 2002-02-15 18:44 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Rik van Riel @ 2002-02-15 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: Arjan van de Ven, linux-kernel On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > because they didn't include a patch in diff -u form ? > > > > And what do you mean with "picked them up"? Do you demand a fix in 24 > > hours? > > well.. 24 days would be fine. > > usually documented bugs get fixed, or at _least_ someone should _try_ > to see what it is So why haven't you ? Or do you not count as "someone" ? ;) I guess Ingo might just have been busy working on the O(1) scheduler, or something. cheers, Rik -- "Linux holds advantages over the single-vendor commercial OS" -- Microsoft's "Competing with Linux" document http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 18:39 ` Rik van Riel @ 2002-02-15 18:44 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 18:45 ` Arjan van de Ven 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rik van Riel; +Cc: Arjan van de Ven, linux-kernel > So why haven't you ? Or do you not count as "someone" ? ;) I happen to be in the rather large group of people not very familiar with the linux kernel source code. > I guess Ingo might just have been busy working on the O(1) > scheduler, or something. Please try to understand that banging my head against a problem for (now over a month) is quite annoying. roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 18:44 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 18:45 ` Arjan van de Ven 2002-02-15 18:59 ` How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Arjan van de Ven @ 2002-02-15 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: Rik van Riel, Arjan van de Ven, linux-kernel On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 07:44:05PM +0100, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > So why haven't you ? Or do you not count as "someone" ? ;) > > I happen to be in the rather large group of people not very familiar with > the linux kernel source code. > > > I guess Ingo might just have been busy working on the O(1) > > scheduler, or something. > > Please try to understand that banging my head against a problem for (now > over a month) is quite annoying. You know what...... that's what support is for. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 18:45 ` Arjan van de Ven @ 2002-02-15 18:59 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 19:11 ` Daniel Egger ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Arjan van de Ven; +Cc: Rik van Riel, linux-kernel, Tux mailing list > > Please try to understand that banging my head against a problem for (now > > over a month) is quite annoying. > > You know what...... that's what support is for. Is it only me? Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? I thought that was what made open-source projects better... roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 18:59 ` How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk @ 2002-02-15 19:11 ` Daniel Egger 2002-02-19 18:23 ` Ben Greear 2002-02-15 19:31 ` Rik van Riel ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Daniel Egger @ 2002-02-15 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: linux-kernel, Tux mailing list Am Fre, 2002-02-15 um 19.59 schrieb Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk: > Is it only me? > Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? > I thought that was what made open-source projects better... You don't get the point, do you? You get what pay for and in this case it's zilch, zero, nada, nothing... ... No, wait, you have the source, that's more than nothing. Use it, Luke! When there's no developper interesting in fixing the bug you've found in her/his sparetime you should consider buying some help or fix it yourself instead of complaining. -- Servus, Daniel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 19:11 ` Daniel Egger @ 2002-02-19 18:23 ` Ben Greear 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Ben Greear @ 2002-02-19 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tux-list; +Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, linux-kernel Daniel Egger wrote: > Am Fre, 2002-02-15 um 19.59 schrieb Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk: > > >>Is it only me? >>Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? >>I thought that was what made open-source projects better... >> > > You don't get the point, do you? > > You get what pay for and in this case it's zilch, zero, nada, nothing... > ... No, wait, you have the source, that's more than nothing. Use it, > Luke! > > When there's no developper interesting in fixing the bug you've found in > her/his sparetime you should consider buying some help or fix it > yourself instead of complaining. I think the developers have a moral responsibility to make an attempt to at least answer questions and bug reports. Even if the answer is just: I'm too busy now...please check back later. If you don't have time to respond for a protracted time, then it's time to give up stewardship of the project to someone who has more resources available.... I am just as guilty of being slow to answer as most other folks, so this is not to cast blame. I do think your crass assumption that developers owe nothing to the users of their code is quite wrong though. Ben > > -- Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> <Ben_Greear AT excite.com> President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 18:59 ` How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 19:11 ` Daniel Egger @ 2002-02-15 19:31 ` Rik van Riel 2002-02-16 5:42 ` Michael E Brown 2002-02-16 17:48 ` Horst von Brand 3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Rik van Riel @ 2002-02-15 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: Arjan van de Ven, linux-kernel, Tux mailing list On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > Please try to understand that banging my head against a problem for (now > > > over a month) is quite annoying. > > > > You know what...... that's what support is for. > > Is it only me? Clients always get answers, other people get answers if/when time allows. > Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? > > I thought that was what made open-source projects better... Indeed, but unfortunately developers don't always have time to look at everything. regards, Rik -- "Linux holds advantages over the single-vendor commercial OS" -- Microsoft's "Competing with Linux" document http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 18:59 ` How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 19:11 ` Daniel Egger 2002-02-15 19:31 ` Rik van Riel @ 2002-02-16 5:42 ` Michael E Brown 2002-02-16 17:48 ` Horst von Brand 3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael E Brown @ 2002-02-16 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tux mailing list; +Cc: Arjan van de Ven, Rik van Riel, linux-kernel Sorry, is it just me, or does this page http://www.redhat.com/services/techsupport/application/tux.html not detail exactly how you would go about getting high-priority support/bugfixes/etc? And doesn't this page, http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla, have an entry for 'TUX' somewhere? Red Hat has to make some money somehow... I'm sure there is somebody on this list that is capable of generating tux-odds-n-ends-A1.patch and hosting it until Ingo/RedHat gets around to merging it, rather than just whining... -- Michael Brown On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > Please try to understand that banging my head against a problem for (now > > > over a month) is quite annoying. > > > > You know what...... that's what support is for. > > Is it only me? > > Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? > > I thought that was what made open-source projects better... > > roy > > -- > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA > > Computers are like air conditioners. > They stop working when you open Windows. > > > > _______________________________________________ > tux-list mailing list > tux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/tux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) 2002-02-15 18:59 ` How to make Linux/Tux/Whatever better? (was Re: TUX development? Anyone?) Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2002-02-16 5:42 ` Michael E Brown @ 2002-02-16 17:48 ` Horst von Brand 3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Horst von Brand @ 2002-02-16 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk; +Cc: linux-kernel Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net> said: [...] > Can I please get *some* sort of feedback after submitting a bug report? You get the bug report back via lkml, so you know hundereds of people read it. If nobody has comments, you know there is no other interest. So you either (try to) fix it yourself or pay somebody to do so, or stay put. -- Horst von Brand http://counter.li.org # 22616 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: TUX development? Anyone? 2002-02-15 13:21 TUX development? Anyone? Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 2002-02-15 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven @ 2002-02-15 22:52 ` Ingo Molnar 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Ingo Molnar @ 2002-02-15 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tux mailing list; +Cc: linux-kernel On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > After tux2-full-2.4.17-final-A1 was released, I've submitted a few bug > reports. However; noone have picked them up. Regarding the '50 connections limit' i have asked whether you can reproduce it with small, fully cached files. Ingo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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