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From: Martin Wirth <martin.wirth@dlr.de>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Futexes IV (Fast Lightweight Userspace Semaphores)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 12:23:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C932B2E.90709@dlr.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16m1oK-0006oy-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>



Rusty Russell wrote:

>
>The solution I was referring to before, using full semaphores, would
>look like so:
>
>struct pthread_cond_t
>{
>	int num_waiting;
>	struct futex wait, ack;
>};
>
>#define PTHREAD_COND_INITIALIZER { 0, { 0 }, { 0 } }
>
>int pthread_cond_signal(pthread_cond_t *cond)
>{
>	if (cond->num_waiters)
>		return futex_up(&cond->futex, 1);
>	return 0;
>}
>
>int pthread_cond_broadcast(pthread_cond_t *cond)
>{
>	unsigned int waiters = cond->num_waiting;
>
>	if (waiters) {
>		futex_up(&cond->futex, waiters);
>		/* Wait for ack before returning. */
>		futex_down(&cond->ack);
>	}
>	return 0;
>}
>
>int pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t *cond, pthread_mutex_t *mutex)
>{
>	int ret;
>
>	/* Increment first so broadcaster knows we are waiting. */
>	atomic_inc(cond->num_waiting);
>	futex_up(&mutex, 1);
>	ret = futex_down(&cond);
>	if (atomic_dec_and_test(cond->num_waiting))
>		futex_up(&cond->ack);
>	futex_down(&mutex->futex);
>	return ret;
>}
>
In principle that works. But one of  things that's less nice with 
pthread_cond_wait is
that you sometimes have a (most of the time) unnecessary schedule 
ping-pong, and with the
approach above you always have this (due to ack). And secondly if 
futex_up(&f, N) for N > 1
relies on the chained wakeup in the kernels futex_up routine the 
broadcast may take a while to
complete (the lowest priority waiter penalizes all others queued behind 
him). A semaphore simply is no full replacement for a waitqueue with 
wake_all.

Martin

P.S.  With respect to pthreads I was not thinking of a bloated N:M 
library, but of some simple
fast pthread semantics compatible wrapper for _clone etc.   







  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-16 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-13  9:12 [PATCH] Futexes IV (Fast Lightweight Userspace Semaphores) Martin Wirth
2002-03-13 19:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-13 19:52   ` Dave McCracken
2002-03-13 22:17     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-13 20:06   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-15  7:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-15  8:41   ` Martin Wirth
2002-03-15 15:29     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-15 16:23     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-16  0:12       ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-16 11:23         ` Martin Wirth [this message]
2002-03-17  6:50           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-18  0:52             ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-03-19  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-19  4:05                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-03-20  6:20                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-20 10:42                     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-20 17:20                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-03-19  8:34                 ` Martin Wirth
2002-03-20  6:45                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-21  6:48                     ` Martin Wirth
2002-03-24 18:25                       ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-25  2:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-25  4:46                           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-25 11:56                             ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-26  1:02                               ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-26  8:17                                 ` Martin Wirth
2002-03-26 23:10                                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-27 21:05                                     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-27 23:53                                       ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-25  9:47                           ` Peter Wächtler
2002-03-16 19:48         ` Peter Wächtler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-05  7:01 Rusty Russell
2002-03-05 22:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-05 23:16   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-05 23:26     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-05 23:37       ` Peter Svensson
2002-03-05 23:50         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-08  0:07       ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-06  1:46   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-06  2:03     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-08 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-08 19:03   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-08 19:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-08 20:29       ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-08 20:48         ` Matthew Kirkwood
2002-03-08 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-08 23:15           ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-08 23:36             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-08 23:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-08 23:56               ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-09  2:12                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-11 14:14                   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-09  0:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-09  1:15                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 19:41                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-11 20:49                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-13  7:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-13 16:37                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 19:58                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-10 20:40                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 20:28                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-10 21:05                         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-12  9:35                 ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-08 20:40       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-08 20:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-08 23:43           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08 22:55         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-08 23:38           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-08 23:44           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-08 20:47       ` george anzinger
2002-03-08 23:02         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-08 23:47           ` george anzinger
2002-03-09  1:11             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-09  1:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-09  4:49       ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-11 22:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-11 23:12           ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-12  7:20           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-12 14:56             ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-13  4:02               ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-12 17:17             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-13  2:57               ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-09  4:51   ` Rusty Russell

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