talks about SE Linux

talks about SE Linux

[Russell Coker]

Peter suggested that I should inform everyone about the talks on SE Linux I'm 
giving in the near future.  So here's my current plans:

On Sunday the 7th of April I am giving a presentation on SE Linux for OxLug 
(the Oxford LUG).  It's an open invite, contact me off-list if you are 
interested in attending and I'll get you the details.

Then I'm doing a presentation at OLS http://www.linuxsymposium.org/ , and 
after that I'll probably offer a talk for the Debian Conference 2 in Toronto 
(early July).  I imagine that the DebConf people won't reject a talk from me 
on this topic.  Also I have nothing planned between OLS and Debconf, so I 
could probably do a local LUG in the mean time.

Also at OLS I would like to arrange a BOF on advanced security (where we can 
discuss SE Linux, GR Security, OpenWall, LIDS, and anything else that seems 
appropriate).  This will be entirely separate from the LSM BOF.
Another thing I was thinking of was an install-fest for these things.

The topics of my talks will be SE Linux in general and on Debianizing it in 
particular (with discussion on general packaging issues that also apply to 
RPM or other packaging systems).  Also I will discuss other related issues 
such as finding bugs in programs through SE Linux (which is actually a very 
trivial thing but gets people's attention).
The balance of the various items I talk about will depend on what I expect 
the audience wants, and can change during the talk in response to questions 
(I prefer a very interactive format for my presentations).

I've agreed in concept to give a talk for the Nederlandse Linux Gebruikers 
Groep http://www.nllgg.nl/ , but have not been able to arrange a date yet 
because of my schedule and their schedule not matching well.  I'll also offer 
talks to any other groups that meet in the center of the Netherlands (where I 
live), and I'll consider other European countries.


I'll be in Australia in May to get married, due to this and the talks I have 
got planned already I can't arrange anything else before the August. The only 
possible exception is something in Canada the week after OLS which doesn't 
involve incurring any expenses for me.

At the moment I can't arrange anything in August or later because it's too 
far ahead and I'm organizing too many other things at the moment and can't 
deal with that too.


Please contact me off-list if you want to discuss any of these issues other 
than BOFs.



Russell Coker

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Re: talks about SE Linux

[Roberto Nibali]

Hi Russell,

> Also at OLS I would like to arrange a BOF on advanced security (where we can
> discuss SE Linux, GR Security, OpenWall, LIDS, and anything else that seems
> appropriate).  This will be entirely separate from the LSM BOF.
> Another thing I was thinking of was an install-fest for these things.

Excellent. I'll be attending OLS too like every year. I'm not sure if you
were there last year at the LSM BOF. I'd be very interesting in having
a BOF on selinux. I had a long and extensive talk with P. Loscocco last year
about several issues they might address before porting to LSM (which has 
already happened). I've been working very closely with B+ systems from Argus 
on Solaris and thus I hope to be able to give some valuable input. I also 
like to talk about a possible clean meta policy configuration description
for LSM/selinux since I've got a very clean, stripped and secure linux
distro handy, which has been developed by 3 people over the course of 2 
years. This is namely the biggest problem when dealing with C2 and upwards
systems. It should be possible though to write a kind of matrix and a 
translation function to reflect the security policy needed for a certain
application framework. This would leed to widely adaption of LSM/<put your
favourite MAC/TE/ACL implementation in> for commercial purposes.

I certainly hope that Stephen Smalley and Pete Loscocco will be attending
OLS too so we might have other interesting talks while having a cool beer.

Cheers and looking forward to seeing you at OLS,
Roberto Nibali, ratz

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Re: talks about SE Linux

[Russell Coker]

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:45, you wrote:
> > Also at OLS I would like to arrange a BOF on advanced security (where we
> > can discuss SE Linux, GR Security, OpenWall, LIDS, and anything else that
> > seems appropriate).  This will be entirely separate from the LSM BOF.
> > Another thing I was thinking of was an install-fest for these things.
>
> Excellent. I'll be attending OLS too like every year. I'm not sure if you
> were there last year at the LSM BOF. I'd be very interesting in having

No, last year I wasn't so interested in security.

> a BOF on selinux. I had a long and extensive talk with P. Loscocco last

He must have been having many long and extensive talks!  ;)

> year about several issues they might address before porting to LSM (which
> has already happened). I've been working very closely with B+ systems from
> Argus on Solaris and thus I hope to be able to give some valuable input. I
> also like to talk about a possible clean meta policy configuration
> description for LSM/selinux since I've got a very clean, stripped and
> secure linux distro handy, which has been developed by 3 people over the
> course of 2 years. This is namely the biggest problem when dealing with C2
> and upwards systems. It should be possible though to write a kind of matrix
> and a translation function to reflect the security policy needed for a
> certain application framework. This would leed to widely adaption of
> LSM/<put your favourite MAC/TE/ACL implementation in> for commercial
> purposes.

Sounds interesting.  Writing policy files for SE Linux is really painful at 
the moment, it needs some serious work.

> I certainly hope that Stephen Smalley and Pete Loscocco will be attending
> OLS too so we might have other interesting talks while having a cool beer.

I believe that Stephen will not be able to attend, but Pete will be there.

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Re: talks about SE Linux

[Charles Levert (LMC)]

I also have a talk about security policy at OLS.  It's titled "Security
Policy Generation through Package Management".  It is a work in progress
and I will try to remain as generic as possible (although I will most
probably generate part of a policy for SE Linux for the prototype,
and work with RPM).

Two of my colleagues at Ericsson Research also have talks about security
at would probably be interested in security-related BoFs.


Charles

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