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From: Dave Engebretsen <engebret@vnet.ibm.com>
To: justincarlson@cmu.edu, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org, davidm@hpl.hp.com,
	ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: Memory Barrier Definitions
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 10:27:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CD943CE.296717DF@vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E175BY8-0008S4-00@the-village.bc.nu> <1020809750.13627.24.camel@gs256.sp.cs.cmu.edu> <3CD89247.8ECB01A4@vnet.ibm.com>

Dave Engebretsen wrote:
> 
> justincarlson@cmu.edu wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 16:27, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > and our current heirarchy is a little bit more squashed than that. I'd
> > > agree. We actually hit a corner case of this on the IDT winchip x86 where
> > > we run relaxed store ordering and have to define wmb() as a locked add of
> > > zero to the top of stack - which does have a penalty that isnt needed
> > > for CPU ordering.
> > >
> > > How much of this impacts Mips64 ?
> >
> > In terms of the MIPS{32|64} ISA, the current primitives seem fine;
> > there's only 1 option defined in the ISA:  'sync'.  Order for all
> > off-cache accesses is guaranteed around a sync.
> >
> > It gets a bit more complicated when you talk about what particular
> > implementations do, and ordering rules for uncached vs cached accesses,
> > but to the best of my knowledge there aren't any fundamental problems as
> > described for the PPC.
> >
> > -Justin

I am curious what the definition of memory barriers is for IA64, Sparc,
and x86-64.  

>From what I can tell, sparc and x86-64 are like alpha and map directly
to the existing mb, wmb, and rmb semantics, incluing ordering between
system memory and I/O space.  Is that an accurate assesment?

IA64 has both the mf and mf.a instructions, one for system memory the
other for I/O space.  What is required for ordering of references
between the spaces?  That is not clear to me looking at the ia64
headers.

Thanks for any input -

Dave.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-08 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-07 19:07 Memory Barrier Definitions Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 19:53   ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 20:27     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 21:23       ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 22:15       ` justincarlson
2002-05-08  2:49         ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 13:54           ` Justin Carlson
2002-05-08 15:27           ` Dave Engebretsen [this message]
2002-05-08 15:49             ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-08 17:07             ` David Mosberger
2002-05-09  7:36               ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-09  8:01                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 15:00                 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13  3:26                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-13 16:36                     ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 16:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 17:53                         ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 23:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-07 22:57       ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-13 18:16         ` Jesse Barnes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-09 11:33 Manfred Spraul
2002-05-09 19:38 ` Dave Engebretsen

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