From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
rohit.seth@intel.com, sunil.saxena@intel.com,
asit.k.mallick@intel.com
Subject: Re: large page patch
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:26:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D49DFD0.FE0DBC1D@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020801.174301.123634127.davem@redhat.com
"David S. Miller" wrote:
>
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:37:46 -0700
>
> Some observations which have been made thus far:
>
> - Minimal impact on the VM and MM layers
>
> Well the downside of this is that it means it isn't transparent
> to userspace. For example, specfp2000 results aren't going to
> improve after installing these changes. Some of the other large
> page implementations would.
>
> - The change to MAX_ORDER is unneeded
>
> This is probably done to increase the likelyhood that 4MB page orders
> are available. If we collapse 4MB pages deeper, they are less likely
> to be broken up because smaller orders would be selected first.
This is leakage from ia64, which supports up to 256k pages.
> Maybe it doesn't make a difference....
>
> - swapping of large pages and making them pagecache-coherent is
> unpopular.
>
> Swapping them is easy, any time you hit a large PTE you unlarge it.
> This is what some of other large page implementations do. Basically
> the implementation is that set_pte() breaks apart large ptes when
> necessary.
As far as mm/*.c is concerned, there is no pte. It's just a vma
which is marked "don't touch" These pages aren't on the LRU, nothing
knows about them.
Apparently a page-table based representation could not be used by PPC.
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
rohit.seth@intel.com, sunil.saxena@intel.com,
asit.k.mallick@intel.com
Subject: Re: large page patch
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:26:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D49DFD0.FE0DBC1D@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020801.174301.123634127.davem@redhat.com
"David S. Miller" wrote:
>
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:37:46 -0700
>
> Some observations which have been made thus far:
>
> - Minimal impact on the VM and MM layers
>
> Well the downside of this is that it means it isn't transparent
> to userspace. For example, specfp2000 results aren't going to
> improve after installing these changes. Some of the other large
> page implementations would.
>
> - The change to MAX_ORDER is unneeded
>
> This is probably done to increase the likelyhood that 4MB page orders
> are available. If we collapse 4MB pages deeper, they are less likely
> to be broken up because smaller orders would be selected first.
This is leakage from ia64, which supports up to 256k pages.
> Maybe it doesn't make a difference....
>
> - swapping of large pages and making them pagecache-coherent is
> unpopular.
>
> Swapping them is easy, any time you hit a large PTE you unlarge it.
> This is what some of other large page implementations do. Basically
> the implementation is that set_pte() breaks apart large ptes when
> necessary.
As far as mm/*.c is concerned, there is no pte. It's just a vma
which is marked "don't touch" These pages aren't on the LRU, nothing
knows about them.
Apparently a page-table based representation could not be used by PPC.
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-02 0:37 large page patch Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 0:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 0:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 1:26 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-08-02 1:26 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 1:19 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 1:19 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 3:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-02 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-02 1:50 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 1:50 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 2:29 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-02 2:29 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-02 2:23 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 2:23 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 2:53 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-02 2:53 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-02 5:24 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 5:24 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 5:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 5:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 6:26 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 6:26 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 6:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-02 6:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-02 6:44 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 6:44 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 10:00 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-02 10:00 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-02 7:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 7:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 7:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 7:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 8:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 8:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 9:05 ` Ryan Cumming
2002-08-02 9:05 ` Ryan Cumming
2002-08-02 9:06 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 9:06 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 12:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-02 12:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-02 13:29 ` What does this error mean? "local symbols in discarded section .text.exit" jeff millar
2002-08-02 13:52 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-08-02 22:50 ` jeff millar
2002-08-02 23:04 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-02 15:27 ` large page patch David Mosberger
2002-08-02 15:27 ` David Mosberger
2002-08-02 1:09 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-02 1:09 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-02 4:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 4:13 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-02 4:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 4:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02 5:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 7:30 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 4:38 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-02 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 4:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-02 4:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-02 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-02 3:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 3:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-02 23:40 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-08-02 23:40 ` Chris Wedgwood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-02 1:34 Seth, Rohit
2002-08-02 1:34 ` Seth, Rohit
2002-08-02 19:31 Seth, Rohit
2002-08-02 19:31 ` Seth, Rohit
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0208012133111.1857-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2002-08-06 20:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-08-07 0:11 Seth, Rohit
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