From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@mathematik.uni-ulm.de>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: MM patches against 2.5.31
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:58:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6AC0BB.FE65D5F7@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200208261809.45568.tomlins@cam.org
Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>
> This seems to have been missed:
Still thinking about it.
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > In article <3D6989F7.9ED1948A@zip.com.au>,
> > Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>What I'm inclined to do there is to change __page_cache_release()
> >>to not attempt to free the page at all. Just let it sit on the
> >>LRU until page reclaim encounters it. With the anon-free-via-pagevec
> >>patch, very, very, very few pages actually get their final release in
> >>__page_cache_release() - zero on uniprocessor, I expect.
> >
> > If you do this, then I would personally suggest a conceptually different
> > approach: make the LRU list count towards the page count. That will
> > _automatically_ result in what you describe - if a page is on the LRU
> > list, then "freeing" it will always just decrement the count, and the
> > _real_ free comes from walking the LRU list and considering count==1 to
> > be trivially freeable.
> >
> > That way you don't have to have separate functions for releasing
> > different kinds of pages (we've seen how nasty that was from a
> > maintainance standpoint already with the "put_page vs
> > page_cache_release" thing).
> >
> > Ehh?
>
> If every structure locks before removing its reference (ie before testing and/or
> removing a lru reference we take zone->lru_lock, for slabs take cachep->spinlock
> etc) Its a bit of an audit task to make sure the various locks are taken (and
> documented) though.
>
> By leting the actual free be lazy as Linus suggests things should simplify nicely.
Well we wouldn't want to leave tons of free pages on the LRU - the
VM would needlessly reclaim pagecache before finding the free pages. And
higher-order page allocations could suffer.
If we go for explicit lru removal in truncate and zap_pte_range
then this approach may be best. Still thinking about it.
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@mathematik.uni-ulm.de>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: MM patches against 2.5.31
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:58:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6AC0BB.FE65D5F7@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200208261809.45568.tomlins@cam.org
Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>
> This seems to have been missed:
Still thinking about it.
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > In article <3D6989F7.9ED1948A@zip.com.au>,
> > Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>What I'm inclined to do there is to change __page_cache_release()
> >>to not attempt to free the page at all. Just let it sit on the
> >>LRU until page reclaim encounters it. With the anon-free-via-pagevec
> >>patch, very, very, very few pages actually get their final release in
> >>__page_cache_release() - zero on uniprocessor, I expect.
> >
> > If you do this, then I would personally suggest a conceptually different
> > approach: make the LRU list count towards the page count. That will
> > _automatically_ result in what you describe - if a page is on the LRU
> > list, then "freeing" it will always just decrement the count, and the
> > _real_ free comes from walking the LRU list and considering count==1 to
> > be trivially freeable.
> >
> > That way you don't have to have separate functions for releasing
> > different kinds of pages (we've seen how nasty that was from a
> > maintainance standpoint already with the "put_page vs
> > page_cache_release" thing).
> >
> > Ehh?
>
> If every structure locks before removing its reference (ie before testing and/or
> removing a lru reference we take zone->lru_lock, for slabs take cachep->spinlock
> etc) Its a bit of an audit task to make sure the various locks are taken (and
> documented) though.
>
> By leting the actual free be lazy as Linus suggests things should simplify nicely.
Well we wouldn't want to leave tons of free pages on the LRU - the
VM would needlessly reclaim pagecache before finding the free pages. And
higher-order page allocations could suffer.
If we go for explicit lru removal in truncate and zap_pte_range
then this approach may be best. Still thinking about it.
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-26 22:09 MM patches against 2.5.31 Ed Tomlinson
2002-08-26 22:09 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-08-26 23:58 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-08-26 23:58 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-27 0:13 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-27 0:13 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-28 17:06 ` slablru for 2.5.32-mm1 Ed Tomlinson
2002-08-28 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-02 5:26 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-02 15:00 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-02 18:35 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-02 19:09 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-02 19:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-02 6:50 ` Andrew Morton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-22 2:29 MM patches against 2.5.31 Andrew Morton
2002-08-22 2:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-22 11:28 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-22 11:28 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 9:10 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 9:10 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 14:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 14:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 15:29 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 15:29 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 17:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 17:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 19:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 19:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 19:48 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 19:48 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 9:22 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 9:22 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 19:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-27 19:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 20:00 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 20:00 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 20:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 20:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 20:58 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-26 20:58 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-27 16:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-27 16:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 13:14 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-28 13:14 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2002-08-28 17:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 17:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 17:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 17:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 20:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 20:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 22:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-28 22:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-28 22:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-26 21:31 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 21:31 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-27 3:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-27 3:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-27 4:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-27 4:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-26 19:28 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-22 15:59 ` Steven Cole
2002-08-22 15:59 ` Steven Cole
2002-08-22 16:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-22 16:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-22 19:45 ` Steven Cole
2002-08-22 19:45 ` Steven Cole
2002-08-26 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 2:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-26 2:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-26 2:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 2:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-26 3:06 ` Steven Cole
2002-08-26 3:06 ` Steven Cole
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