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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@surriel.com
Subject: Re: statm_pgd_range() sucks!
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:54:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6EEC88.F6D0E6D6@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020830031208.GK888@holomorphy.com

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> 
> William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> >> (1) shared, lib, text, & total are now reported as what's mapped
> >>         instead of what's resident. This actually fixes two bugs:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:51:44PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > hmm.  Personally, I've never believed, or even bothered to try to
> > understand what those columns are measuring.  Does anyone actually
> > find them useful for anything?  If so, what are they being used for?
> > What info do we really, actually want to know?
> 
> I'm basically looking for VSZ, RSS, %cpu, & pid -- after that I don't
> care.

Well statistics coming out of the kernel can be quite vital in the tuning
of real world applications - they're not just for kernel developers.  The
stats contribute to the bottom-line performance and stability of the things
for which people are actually using the kernel.  That's a motherhood statement,
I know, but I think it's important.

> ...
> 
> Per-vma RSS is trivial, just less self-contained. Everywhere the
> mm->rss is touched, the vma to account that to is also known, except
> for put_dirty_page(), and that can be repaired as its caller knows.

This would provide useful information at a justifiable cost, don't you
think?

(ho-hum, all right.  I'll code it ;))

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@surriel.com
Subject: Re: statm_pgd_range() sucks!
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:54:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6EEC88.F6D0E6D6@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020830031208.GK888@holomorphy.com

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> 
> William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> >> (1) shared, lib, text, & total are now reported as what's mapped
> >>         instead of what's resident. This actually fixes two bugs:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:51:44PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > hmm.  Personally, I've never believed, or even bothered to try to
> > understand what those columns are measuring.  Does anyone actually
> > find them useful for anything?  If so, what are they being used for?
> > What info do we really, actually want to know?
> 
> I'm basically looking for VSZ, RSS, %cpu, & pid -- after that I don't
> care.

Well statistics coming out of the kernel can be quite vital in the tuning
of real world applications - they're not just for kernel developers.  The
stats contribute to the bottom-line performance and stability of the things
for which people are actually using the kernel.  That's a motherhood statement,
I know, but I think it's important.

> ...
> 
> Per-vma RSS is trivial, just less self-contained. Everywhere the
> mm->rss is touched, the vma to account that to is also known, except
> for put_dirty_page(), and that can be repaired as its caller knows.

This would provide useful information at a justifiable cost, don't you
think?

(ho-hum, all right.  I'll code it ;))
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-30  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-30  1:58 statm_pgd_range() sucks! William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  1:58 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  2:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-30  2:51   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-30  3:12   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  3:12     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  3:54     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-08-30  3:54       ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-30 17:45     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-08-30 17:45       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-09-01 22:02   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-01 22:02     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05  3:20   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  3:20     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  4:48     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05  4:48       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05  6:05       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  6:05         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  6:49         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05  6:49           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05  7:07           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  7:07             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  6:22     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-05  6:22       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  8:24 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-08-30  8:24   ` Anton Blanchard
2002-08-30  8:31   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-30  8:31     ` William Lee Irwin III

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